Wow Tony, I always wanted to hang of like that but my Dad wouldn't let me, I always had to ride pillion but had a 650 bonnie a few months before I got pregnent with our Michelle a long time ago and then Pete said I shouldnt be rideing. What a bummer that was. To say I first went pillionn at 3 years old with a leather belt round me tied to Dad and now I have only been on a bike about 3-4 times in 38 yrs. Viv