ETIAS up date

[turkeyfoot]

Hi

The introduction date has now changed to 2024. No date given.

See original post:
https://arillas.com/forum/index.php/topic,11210.msg156120.html#msg156120

Geoff

[GaryS]

Guess its not just the Brits who couldn't organise a p-up in a brewery.

[turkeyfoot]

Hi
Latest info is that the Entry/Exit Systems (EES) will be introduced prior to ETIAS.
ETIAS will start a few months later

Still no actual dates

Geoff

[turkeyfoot]

Hi
Looks as though ETIAS and EES are now delayed to 2025. Again no date

Geoff

[turkeyfoot]

Hi
Reported in the press today is that EES will start in Autumn 2024.
Also states that ETIAS about 6 months later.

The official EU reports still state   ETIAS will start in June 2025 with EES starting earlier is that.

Geoff

[turkeyfoot]

Hi

A reminder of EES

https://travel-europe.europa.eu/ees_en . Official EU website

https://www.etiasvisa.com/etias-news/ees-europe-etias-visa. Not an official EU site

[turkeyfoot]

Hi
For those that travel to Romania and Bulgeria, from March 2024, both countries will become part of the Schengen area and border controls will be lifted at air and sea borders.

Discussions on a further decision to lift controls at land borders will continue in 2024.
The EU  Council will decide  on this matter and is expected to be taken within a reasonable time frame.

Geoff

[turkeyfoot]

Hi
Reported in the press today is that EES will start in Autumn 2024.
Also states that ETIAS about 6 months later.

The official EU reports still state   ETIAS will start in June 2025 with EES starting earlier is that.

Geoff

Hi

Yet another delay. EES due to start in October 2024 has again been delayed. Now expected to be 2025 (no date)

This is likely to delay ETIAS as this is (currently) due to start after ESS is introduced

Delay reported to be due to  the development of an app to smooth the process.

Keep collecting  passport stamps

Geoff

[turkeyfoot]

Hi
The EES start date is being reported by the BBC and various news outlets  on line is now Oct 6th.
Also reorted that for a 6 month transition period the EU is expected to allow checks to be reduced in some circumstances if queues build up.
Apparently one reason for the delay was requested by the French, concerned as to travel delays affecting their Olympics
The official EES website still says TBC.

If the ETIAS introduction follows 6 months later as previously reported it will start in April 2025.
The official website says introduction is first half of 2025

Geoff

[turkeyfoot]

Hi
Lots of news on BBC regarding start date of EES now being Nov/10/24. They quote  the EU home affairs commissioner.
No date is shown on the official EU  EES website as of now

Apparently the commissioner also said ETIAS will be in place by May half term 2025. Again nothing on the official EU website.

Geoff

[TerryW]

If people hadn't have voted for Brexit, we wouldn't have had this problem, and the long queues that will go with it. Sorry, but it had to be said. Bloody Brexit. Grrrrrrrrrr

[Eggy]

Terry , I can agree with you on that!
Have you just dangled a fishing hook over me?
Negg

[turkeyfoot]

If people hadn't have voted for Brexit, we wouldn't have had this problem, and the long queues that will go with it. Sorry, but it had to be said. Bloody Brexit. Grrrrrrrrrr

Sorry Terry, but this has to be said.EES and ETIAS have nothing to do with Brexit. Both these programmes relate to people entering the Schengen Zone from non  Schengen Zone countries. With  their open border policy, Brussels want to know who is travelling around   from country to country.

When we were in the EU the UK did not sign up to their open border policy, so we were never members of the Schengen Zone.
So even if we were still EU members we would have had to comply with the proposed security rules

A common misconception Terry
Geoff

[TerryW]

Sorry Geoff, read the following.

"Would etias be needed if uk was still a EU member state?"

No, if the UK were still a member of the EU, UK citizens would not need an ETIAS (European Travel Information and Authorisation System) to travel within the EU. ETIAS is required for travelers from visa-exempt third countries, which the UK became after Brexit12. As an EU member state, UK citizens would have had the right to free movement within the EU, eliminating the need for such travel authorizations3.

Whilst we are on this subject, can you tell me what you have gained by voting for Brexit?

You have complained about waiting times to see a doctor. What has happened to the "We send the EU £350 million a week, let's fund our NHS instead"

[turkeyfoot]

Hi Terry
Without  going into Brexit debates on the forum again we will have to differ.

The UK was never in the Schengen Zone, even as an EU member, and as such would have had to comply with the security rules if we had remained

If we had been in the Schengen Zone of course we would have had to leave it at Brexit

I dont think the EU would have kicked us if we had remained in the EU but did not join  the Zone. Just insisted we comply to its rules.

Buy you a drink if we meet in Arillas in September
Geoff