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Welcome to Arillas => The beach => Topic started by: Paul D on September 02, 2011, 06:54:55 PM
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As the beach seems to evoke peoples` many opinions, I thought i`d ask the question - Why do people feel the need for disrobing completely??
What motivates them to do so? For us, it`s the complete freedom of enjoying the surroundings; let the sun bake down on us turning us (eventually) a golden brown. I know some will say you can do this on a regular beach. But it always makes us laugh when we see women wearing the tiniest g-string you`ve ever seen and no top- how close to being fully naked is that?
Is it about body confidence? Just asking.
Paul.
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Paul
I try not to get too involved in these discussions as, you know, they can get out of hand sometimes.
But this is a good point and one that continues to puzzle me.
A lady, or man, that wears the skimpiest of swimwear wouldn't walk down a UK High Street in that atire and I remember once bumping into a female pal, on a sunbed, who immediatley threw a towel around her top.
(So,it's OK with strangers then?-Equally does she feel uncomfortable with me?)
Wegg has been known to visit the North Beach and do her own thing.
Not a problem to me, but the only freedom I can associate with no clothes is the feeling of walking around without footwear.
So.... Is it a question of "Don't Knock it - Till you try it!?"
It is an interesting point to raise and, I am sure it will be answered in good faith.
Me???? - I'm embarrassed just wearing shorts and the first Arillas member to see me in them, will have a weeks beer with my compliments.
Don't hold yer breath though!
Negg
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Well.... this topic has been read 85 times and I'm surprised no-one else has commented (unless of course there's another thread that I've missed!)
Here's my reply... we've always worn "proper" swimwear, in fact I always hated to see women going topless on the beach - and CERTAINLY around the pool, BUT
Last year we tried the beach at the south end (too tricky to access the north) and absolutely LOVED swimming in the warm sea totally as God intended. However, we don't parade up and down like that, preferring to be mainly in the sea or occasionally laying down to sunbathe. But the feeling of the complete freedom in the sea is fantastic.
We certainly wouldn't do it anywhere near the main areas of the beach - only those to which you have to walk forever and negotiate rocks, etc., and I still don't like to see women topless where there are children/young people about. OK if you're lying face down and undo a strap or two, but not walking around flaunting it.
I'm sure I'll upset a few people by saying this, but please remember - I'm expressing MY views only - not saying that I am right or I am wrong, purely trying to express how I feel.
Janis x
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A very considered and honest debate is recorded on Terry's thread Janis. None of the vitriol, just honest opinions.
Paul, we concur. I find the sight of naked people on a naturist beach quite ordinary and barely notice them. But being male, I find the sight of women on general beaches in nothing but a skimpy bikini bottom quite "disturbing." And topless at pools seems the same to me. Perhaps they are exhibitionists too. Nakedness isn't always sexual, though some seem to confuse the two.
This is never going to be resolved completely. There will always be differences. I think the secret is in the Greek approach - live and let live within limits. I adore swimming in the sea at North end. And when on my own (usual these days 'cause Jen can't get there with me) I sunbathe at the far end behind the big rock.
Phil
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LOL At least I know where to find you now Phil!
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Well a few years ago I would admit to thinking that nudists were just weird and totally didn't get it. One morning after much debating I decided to dash naked into the sea just to see what all the fuss was about! Well my god, simply fab swimming without any constraints and was equally thrilled by the feeling of the sun beating down on you. I still couldn't stroll up and down the beach in all my glory and still question the motives of those who do but that is just my thoughts. As others have said, don't knock it until you have tried it. Muy hubby is now a convert something I thought I would never see! We don't take the kids though and only have an hour of this guilty pleasure every day!
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I'd be surprised if any british nudist wasn't a convert rather than a natural- we're british after all.
Time and place is everything I think which is why I'd disagree with the nudist section stretching any further. I saw an ex colleague at arillas a few years ago, and there was no way I was getting my winkle out if she was on the beach!
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Haha John, I totally agree! its one thing for me and my beloved to enjoy our nakedness but I would die if anyone I vaguely knew suddenly appeared!!
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Swimming as nature intended seems to be the main reason for most of you, but for me it's the getting out and not feeling wet and saggy as wet clothes do' I used to get out of the sea put a towel round me and stuggle to get my costume off then thinking "comeon what you doing this for" then went to a nudie beach in England on one of our lovely weekends stripped of and bang I found life had changed for me. lol. Viv.
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For me it's all of the above plus being able to walk back to the apartment in nice clean shorts rather than have bits of sand grinding in there!
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As a lifelong naturist - and British to boot, though more Irish in truth - I have never had any problem with being or seeing. I must have seen every shape, size and form of human bodies that exist. I think it is the sexual connotation that ruins it for many. Adam and Eve were thrown out of Eden for covering up with fig leaves apparently. Or so I was taught. What happened to innocence?
But John is right - I was converted by a sleazy loan shark in Brighton (I was with Jen though.) Now I am quite sure he wanted to see what I had in my speedos. That is the problem. It will never be solved, and I remember helping a traumatised forum member to handle a situation with an exhibitionist who followed her online. But I am grateful to him because all of my inhibitions just evaporated. I just try not to offend anybody - that is who I am.
For me, naturism is about innocence and freedom. The North end of Arillas beach delivers one little part of that. But without it, I would still be besotted with our place.
Phil
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Adam and Eve were thrown out of Eden for covering up with fig leaves apparently. Or so I was taught. What happened to innocence?
Phil
Ah Phil , Reminds me of the following:-
Adam and Eve in the garden dwelt
Leading a life so jolly
But, can you imagine how they would have felt
If all the fig leaves were holly?
Negg
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omsk...(ask Jill naughton what I mean)
Never did fig leaves, let alone Holly. Jen's and my innocence disappeared on her 16th birthday. We wanted to break the law a week earlier, but her sister came back early when we were babysitting.
Too much information...
See you soon
Phil
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PMSL @ t'other Phil - well done you two - love it! xx
Right I feel I must comment on the naturist issue - Phil and I have been on both the north and south beaches - and as Janis says we do not parade up and down - we love to swim au natural - it is such a lovely free feeling - then lay and sunbathe - probably the first time (which was in Fuerteventura) we were embarrassed - but we soon got over this. If we are on a beach or around a swimming pool we do comply and wear swimming attire - but after swimming naked it seems very constricting.
One year we got talking to a lovely couple, actually in the water at the north end - I cant remember how we started talking - I think I heard something in English - so - as I do - I spoke to the lady - such a long time ago I cant remember their names - it was their first time swimming naked and they loved it! We ended up by going for a meal with them that evening and had a really nice evening. We have never seen them again.
This is just my opinion - to which I am entitled - cos Phil said I could have one. Anne xx
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What a good thread that Paul has started. I find I agree with virtually everything that everyone has said so far.
Appropo being afraid of meeting someone you know - it was on a naturist beach that I discovered the lady sunbathing next to my wife and I was the sister of a police colleague. I had mixed feelings about this for a while but soon decided it didn't matter. However unless asked a direct question when back home we never admit to spending time on the North beach or our favourite beach at Tingaki in Kos wearing nothing but a sunhat. (by the way does a sunhat disqualify me as a true naturist?)
PJ
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(by the way does a sunhat disqualify me as a true naturist?)
PJ
PJ
A sunhat and no speedos! - Hmmmmm! - To imagine gives me a headache.
( Get yer own back on me when yer here! )
Negg
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To rehash an old subject. Some great opinions expressed on this thread and, rightly so, evryone has their own valid point of view.
Some have mentioned bumping into people they know and saying that it would be a bit awkward for them - well, if you see them on the north beach, they are obviously of like mind and enjoy the freedom it gives.
We have seen families there, with no cares in the world. As has been said, it is other peoples` misconceptions that cast a cloud over this debate.
Wonder if there are any new converts out there willing to try North ( or South) beach??
Yammas, Paul
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Well now, I would certainly give it ago in order to dispense with unsightly tan lines and I would also love to try skinny dipping. However my daughter would be horrified - she is at the sensitive preteen age and already believes I should dispense with a bikini and thoroughly cover myself in a shroud like garment from head to toe, lol.
You know what though, each to their own. There are terrible things going on in this world; wars, murders, rapes, domestic violence, debt suicides, etc, etc. What harm can a few people disrobing, at the far end of a beach, possibly be doing. People should save their ire for the things that really matter!
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It is on my bucket list of things to do, this year I am deffo swimming naked in the sea, probably early morning as I am a tad aware of my rolls etc but I WILL be doing it.
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Once tried girls you will do it every year! I guarantee it!
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What harm can a few people disrobing, at the far end of a beach, possibly be doing. People should save their ire for the things that really matter!
That's it then - I'm convinced - I'll be down there soon, and the tartan check long johns will be off. Knee supports will be removed and although there is a danger of me falling over I will make a direct run (or slow wobbly walk) for the sea. - I'll re-emerge looking like Arnold Swartzeneger, Or Doris Day, and sunbathe on the beach with sand going to those places that will probably say:-
WOTSTHATALLABOUT?
But........ seriously.... Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. (It is always said that the nervous ones always joke about it)
But...I will keep my options open and as our pal Angela says. There are much more crucial things in life to worry about!! - Too right lass!
(I'm just a tad worried about how I look emerging from the sea)
Tis cold - DONCHYERKNOW?
Cheers
Negg
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Don't be so modest eggy - we all know that when Daniel Craig did his first Bond film, Casino Royale, it was YOU they used as his stand-in to shoot the scene of him emerging from the sea. ;-) lol
And yeh - I'm with Angela on that point too!!
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I have always loved Viv's caption.
"stay nude it ain't rude"
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I would echo Jo's post above. If you told me a few years ago that I would be a naturist I would have not believed you. A number of years ago on our first visit to Arillas I wandered down (or is it up) to the North beach, got rid of me shorts, went for a swim and was hooked.
Not only is it the the swimming and the sunbathing but not having the soggy shorts clinging to you as you come out of the sea is a big plus. I have a little laugh to myself now thinking about times gone by when after swimming trying to change into dry shorts while holding a towel around myself. What a palaver!
As to etiquette that's probably down to the individual. I wouldn't strip off on the main beach which is backed by properties and used by families, that's why Arillas is ideal. Both North and South beaches are quite isolated so there's not much chance of upsetting anyone.
I've spent much of the last few days on the south beach which is great this year. Talking of which it's time I got back there. I've had my two hour lunch, a half hour nap and the beach is calling again. For those not fortunate to be here at the moment attached (hopefully) is a photo of the south beach at 10:30 this morning.
(http://www.arillas.co/Sbeach.jpg)
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Well Dai I say 'hear hear' to all you say. Am looking forward to those lovely beaches again in a few weeks. The south beach certainly looks to be in good condition. Enjoy your holiday.
PJ
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Thanks so much for the picture Ian....it's looking good this year. Can't wait for August......enjoy!
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Now Sandy, don't go wishing it was August, some of us want to enjoy July first. lol!
The South beach is better than last year and easier to access, Still not too busy, I've been there mornings and late afternoons/evenings and not seen more than twenty people on it, which is by no means overcrowded.
Good to see the tavernas busy too, Efi's was full today lunchtime and so was Thalassa the other night. also Costas on the beach last night. Not an awful lot of people around for July but at least it seems those who are here are using the tavernas.
So come August Sandy I'm sure you'll enjoy the beach, but if you don't mind waiting the July people will enjoy it first.
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The south beach is in wonderful nick this year, I walked it many times in June/July and it was surprisingly tidy too.
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I can confirm, the South beach is more gorgeous than ever. You can't get into Vavilas, even with sharp elbows. And it is Tuesday, not the weekend. I think Thomas will lose weight this season. Arillas is its usual self. And I am loving it.
Phil
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One of the problems that I would have with being a naturist is that I would worry about getting a little excited. I don't wish to be cruse or lower the tone but one of the finest sights in my oppinion is my wife naked. So if I was on a beach with her without clothes I would be scared of embarrassing myself. Also I wouldn't want to share the vision that is my wife's nakedness. I could probably do it by myself though.
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Every young man and older men are worried about that or so Pete tells me. Just turn on you tummy and ignore you Darling wife or get in the sea that will soon get rid of the show excitment. I am told it only happens once unless she cuddles you on the beach, so just tell her she will have to wait untell ciesta tme. No Im not really taking the mick its just that im sure Pete and all the other guys that get there kit of felt the same way before they actully got on the beach. You should give it a go and im sure you will go back to the same part of the beach time after time. Viv
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Bravo viv. Naturism for me leaves sex behind. Jen and I have been naked on many beaches, and we must have seen every shape, size, wrinkle and droop. The point for us is the freedom and equality.
I totally ignore naked young women on the beach, but react as might be expected to the barely clad, up front, thong and nothing else.
Stay nude, it ain't rude....
Phil
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Hi, newbie here. Got back last weekend from our 1st trip to Arillas and we've already put down a deposit for next year. Never done that before. The North beach is definitely a dealbreaker. Neither me nor my wife are paid up naturists but when we can we like to get it all off on a summer holiday. The North beach is by far the best nudie beach we've been on and lacks the gawpers on my others we've visited. We also find you're much more likely to get into conversation with other folk than on a textile beach and this year we met a lot of decent people. What seems odd to me are folk who spend hours sunbathing with their cozzies on to get that ice cream sandwich look. What can anyone find strange about wanting an all over tan, which is why we do it. Sure you look at other people's bods but it's more like checking out their outfits and deffo there's nothing pervy going on.
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Welcome to the forum sneezewort. You describe the feelings of so many who are bitten by the Arillas bug. Jen and me are terminal and incurable, but you are clearly heading down same path. Nice feelings to have about a holiday destination.
Agree entirely with your assessment of North beach, but you can go South as well. Many die-hards now only go to "t'other end."
So glad you're booked to go back. Much more to discover. Keep posting. Before you know it you will find many new friends.
Phil