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Welcome to Arillas => Website technical problems & questions => Topic started by: justphil on March 04, 2010, 11:26:51 PM

Title: Stream De-Activated
Post by: justphil on March 04, 2010, 11:26:51 PM
For weeks now I have been unable to access the webcam with the message that the owner needs to logon and the stream is de-activated. Have assumed I would wait for Dimitris to fix it when he had time. Was never going to push it, after all it is his time off.

I've been missing it though.

Others have commented on the webcam images since, so now I don't know what is going on. Can you help please Dimitris?

Phil
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: riggers on March 04, 2010, 11:31:41 PM
I get something about a plug-in not insalled, so i think that is down to me ??
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: TONYNEW on March 05, 2010, 09:00:40 AM
I can get the last 12 shots up but not the live stream
             Tony
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: vivian on March 05, 2010, 11:07:42 AM
Hi Phil, I get the same as you, and have been for ages and ages. was very unhappy when it was commemted on the other day about how nice it was. Viv
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: TerryW on March 05, 2010, 12:51:45 PM
The live stream has been inactive for quite a few months. The live stream needs to be hosted and to get it hosted you have to pay or be plagued with adverts. If I remember correctly the webcam was hosted on a different site, just over a year ago, but you had to view adverts before seeing the live stream.

Maybe Dimitris is looking for another site to host it or maybe the second webcam, that did the live streaming, could be out of action. I think I can remember seeing a webcam on the tiles of the Horizon as seen from the other webcam during one of the storms.

Dimitris is always striving to improve the website, at his own cost and time, and we may get more additions and surprises in the next few months. I am still amazed by his dedication to this forum and website. A lot  of equipment is required to beam the signal from the Horizon, across the village to a server or PC, and then to get the stream transferred to a hosting site for us to view it.

I went out on to the roof at the Horizon last year and this is the equipment that beams the signal across the village.

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n179/terrylwarner/webcamdish.jpg)

Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: dimitris on April 15, 2010, 05:44:41 PM
Finally Akis came by  yesterday to sort out my networking architecture so that I can be able to run my own webcam server and you can view the arillas webcam live as much as this is possible with the means that we use.

you can now test it here http://www.arillas.com/page/en/live-view-test/
let me know if you have any problems by reporting it with replies to this thread.

Wish me good luck with this...

Dimitris



Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: TerryW on April 15, 2010, 06:02:12 PM
Thanks, Dimitris

It works fine although doesn't seem as clear as it used to be. Maybe Eggy could climb up and give it a clean.

I have also added the link, with a 1 second refresh rate, .........

http://arillas.dyndns.tv:8083/cam_4.jpg?uniq=0.40542537896069075

............to my Google Home page and it looks good.

You are spoiling us again :-)

Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: Geoffrey with a "G" on April 15, 2010, 06:11:44 PM
Yes Dimitris - it`s working well. Good luck with it.
Terry, the link you gave does seem to be clearer.
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: Geoffrey with a "G" on April 15, 2010, 06:16:01 PM
but Terry, there is no movement on your link, there is constant movement on Dimitris`link.
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: TerryW on April 15, 2010, 06:51:33 PM
Geoffrey,

I add that link to my Google home page - do a search for " Igoogle" and you will see what I mean. There are many apps available. I also have local traffic cams.

You can add any webcam you like, and get movement.

Everytime I do a search my home page looks like this

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n179/terrylwarner/igoogle.jpg)
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: Geoffrey with a "G" on April 15, 2010, 07:19:54 PM
Cool Terry - really cool. will try it for sure.
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: justphil on April 15, 2010, 07:37:09 PM
Works just fine here Dimitris, on Internet Explorer 8.0. Many, many thanks

Phil

Will have a play Terry and Geoffrey.....
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: Sandy x on April 15, 2010, 08:39:26 PM
Wonderful to have it back....thanks Dimitri. Looking forward to seeing it, and all of you, ....for real very soon.
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: GaryS on April 15, 2010, 09:09:58 PM
Whoo-Hoo! It's what lunchtime at work was made for. 74 days and counting until we don't need the webcam :-)
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: dimitris on April 16, 2010, 01:32:06 AM
Igoogle and such applications are good but concerning live web cams especially ours,
we have to be less "greedy" with the bandwidth that such  system would need to run.

Terry you must remember that the Upload Bandwidth that I;m using for the live streaming is not higher than 256kb/s.

If a webcam image is   43kb then we can only have maximum 5 viewers watching simultaneously.
Therefore I have set the refresh rate to 1fps (frame per second) which would increase the number of viewers depending on the average time they spend on the live cam.
soon it will be possible to upgrade my connection to a little higher speeds but it will always be a problem for multiple viewers.

I;m trying to find a way to stop viewers from leaving permanetly their browser's window  open in order to have a live view when ever they like. or for those who would leave their pc on for ever with the live cam always on.

there must be some ways that I’m going to investigate …
untill then...
stay tunned!!!
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: justphil on April 16, 2010, 02:03:32 AM
Dimitris, I wish I could answer your problem but I understand it. Every static image of our favourite place is likely to be 40kbytes or more. Then 25+ frames per second multiplied, even compressed by mp3/4 it is a helluva lot of data. Then they leave the stream on their desktop 24/7...... 2000 odd users..... hopeless as a service provider.

From my Arillas persona though, I still love the 1 fps view. It gives me daily peace and joy. The very fact it moves gives me comfort. Somehow the static pictures are less real. Even an animated gif might make me feel better. 1500 km away, I am always there but when I am really there, I feel 0km away from home.

Better shut up now
kalinichta
Phil




   
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: TerryW on April 16, 2010, 10:42:17 AM
Don't worry Dimitris, I only see the Live webcam when I go to my Google search page.

The difference is that when you go to it via the forum, you know you are going to see it, but when it appears on the search page its just a nice feeling to get a glimpse of it when you are in the middle of something else. It can be a distraction, but a very nice distraction.

I hope that makes sense

Terry
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: Erja on April 16, 2010, 01:36:30 PM
Looks good to me :)

I have the weather cam on my blog, does that effect you Dimitris?
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: Eileen on April 16, 2010, 02:53:07 PM

I have the weather cam on my blog, does that effect you Dimitris?

OMG'D Dimitris...I never gave it a thought until I read Ejra's post...I have a link on my website.  Let me know if it affects your bandwidth.

Eileen.xxx
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: dimitris on April 16, 2010, 03:46:21 PM
My dear girls,
Don;t you worry! linking to the webcam or the webcam's picture does not effect the bandwidth  we are talking about.
also, it would n;t effect my bandwith if you place a picture of me on your bedroom's wall.

;)
Cheers,
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: Eileen on April 16, 2010, 03:51:39 PM

also, it would n;t effect my bandwith if you place a picture of me on your bedroom's wall.

;)
Cheers,


Ha, ha excellent Dimitris but it would have to jostle for space with the one already there ;-) :-)

Eileen.x
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: Erja on April 16, 2010, 04:26:08 PM
My dear girls,
Don;t you worry! linking to the webcam or the webcam's picture does not effect the bandwidth  we are talking about.
also, it would n;t effect my bandwith if you place a picture of me on your bedroom's wall.

:D good to hear Dimitris! I will put up a much bigger picture of you in that case ;)
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: Jo Wissett on April 16, 2010, 08:53:05 PM
Dimitris's pic on MY wall is battling for space with gorgeous George :-)
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: TONYNEW on April 17, 2010, 11:41:18 AM
I take it you mean George Formby Jo? ;-)
 Tony
Title: Re: Stream De-Activated
Post by: Jo Wissett on April 17, 2010, 09:36:42 PM
No, Tony, theie aint no window cleaning from my George ;-)