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Welcome to Arillas => Accommodation reviews => Package Holidays => Topic started by: Karen/Colin on August 25, 2007, 09:01:25 PM
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We have just returned from 2 weeks staying at Nafsika. We had a fabulous holiday(again) in arillas with just one complaint. I thought the pool at the rainbow complex had been monopolized by Germans. We were up & on the balcony most mornings by 9.30 & every sunbed had a towel on it!, No people, just towels! A couple of mornings we were up & about before 9.00 & almost all the beds were towel reserved. Shocking! There are more than enough beds to cope with the occupants of the rainbow complex so some people must have come from neighbouring accommodation to reserve a bed. What is wrong with the glorious beach? Why come to a lovely resort like Arillas if you are going to spend all day every day by the pool?
These beds were unavailable all day. We spent most days at the beach if not exploring elsewhere & on return to the complex all the beds still had towels in place. We were a bit miffed to say the least as we paid to stay at the nafsika because it has a pool etc, but only occasionally used the pool didn't get to sunbathe by it.
I did even see other customers of the rainbow complex arriving poolside with towels looking disappointed as all the beds were reserved.
Last year at the end of a day by the beach we spent an ahour every day by the pool, drinking coffee & having a little swim.None of the beds were reserved at daylight with towels.
Even our two teenagers were getting fed up at the end of the holiday as they liked to come off the beach mid afternoon to go back to the complex to laze by the pool & swim but were unable to do the lazing bit.
I don't know who started this sad craze this year but i do feel that if you are not occupying your bed, shift your towel so someone else can have a recline.
Karen
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This sort of thing is not acceptable.
We're going to be staying close to Rainbows shortly, and wish to make use of the pool and sunloungers.
Of course we'll be spending money there, or, intend to if we can have the use of the sunloungers.
This selfish behaviour of placing towels long before daybreak is outlawed by some establishments.
When we were in Cyprus 2 years ago, some folk used this tactic to 'reserve' a place 24/7
I know of instances, where the management do not allow this sort of thing.
I also know of instances, where the towels are chucked into the pool, to deter this sort of thing. :-)
So if you hear about the Rainbow pool being found full of towels, in early September........... ;-)
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kAREN ,,That must have been realy annoying...I Appreciate the concerns re towels on beds but its not always the nationality you mention that cause this unnacceptible behaviour..us Brits can be just as bad..the hoteliers should get on the job and remove any towels from unoccupied beds after a certain time has elapsed..I know of two hotels in Arillas who do this as I have been present WHEN THE TOWELS ETC HAVE BEEN DUMPED...
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I don't know why it was such a problem this year - I have never known it so bad at The Rainbow pool - but Karen you are right - the sunbeds seemed to be permanently reserved. Some families (some quite large families) seemed to use sunbeds for a couple of hours in the morning - then go off shopping or to the beach, leaving their towels on the beds for use when/if they returned. Jimmy and Spiro were aware of the problem.
I can understand your frustration - Karen - as a "resident" of the complex BUT as you know the pool is not reserved for the exclusive use of "residents" - unlike many other places in Europe where only residents of a hotel or complex can use the pool. This time I wasn't a "resident" but used the Rainbow pool every day. I love Arillas (in fact, my friend and I are having a house built there) but I am not a beach person and my idea of heaven is spending every day sunbathing by the pool - that obviously sounds strange to you but - each to his own!!!!
The problem is - of course - once you get a few people "reserving" sunbeds - everyone else thinks that is the thing to do - and this year it seems to have become a big issue. A friend had been using his sunbed all morning and left his stuff there (towel, book, bag etc) simply to go to the bar for lunch - you can imagine how upset he was when he returned after lunch to find someone had moved all his stuff - don't know what the answer is other than hoping people behave less selfishly.
Just like to add - I didn't ever reserve a bed - but my favourite spot is up on the grass by the playground - no problem with the sunbeds there.
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We stayed at the Rainbow Complex last September and noticed the same thing going on RE: booking sunbeds, infact we also noticed some people were even trying to monopolise two umbrellas, which was really being selfish. This did not bother us too much as we prefer to spend our time at the beach (much better people watching). We had no other complaints about the complex and Jimmy & Spiros made us feel very welcome, even managed to change from football to a rugby game on the TV!!(how sad are we?) That said we are staying in different accomodation this year but will no doubt still pop in to the Rainbow from time to time.
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It has certainly not put us off the rainbow complex, we have just booked another 2 weeks for next July/Aug so it will be interesting to see if the trend continues.
Karen
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Towels on sunbeds at Rainbow??
I can't imagine Spiros and Jimmy letting this happen. But these are obviously not made up forum stories.
Rainbow have a link on this site so maybe someone could e-mail them and ask?
Negg
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I am afraid that the only way to stop this is to wait about 15 minutes, and if nobody returns to the sunbeds in that time, just remove the towels and hand them into reception as lost property. This has the impact of highlighting the problem to other "selfish" guests and also embarresses the people who have left the towels in the first place.
I find this situation even more annoying when the people who leave the towels don't even stay at the hotel.
Can I have another rant? Ok thanks.
I get annoyed at people who have drinks at their sunbeds around the pool and then leave the glasses and bottles, which could then easily get broken. It is no trouble to just take the glasses back to the bar when you leave the pool side.
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I get annoyed at people who have drinks at their sunbeds around the pool and then leave the glasses and bottles, which could then easily get broken. It is no trouble to just take the glasses back to the bar when you leave the pool side.
...and I think it's just good manners too!
Eileenx
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Ok got to have my little go haha!!
I do not tolerate selfish people, if i see all the sunbeds reserved anywhere i go and no people laying on them then 2 towels get removed wherever i want to lay.
If i see a towel on a lounger that has belongings there, ie book, flip flops, suncream etc etc thats obvious its being used, but if all the others are just a towel, no belongings then its obvious theyre off out somewhere and are not actually using the bed, this is my cue to do as Terry says, remove them!
If the owners of said towel come back and start questioning you about moving their towel just say 'were you here laying on it, do you own this sunlounger' the answers will obviously be no so your reply is 'well there you go then' and then proceed to carry on reading or lay back down and sunbathe, they will be left standing there embarrassed!
If youre not going to be laying there you cant reserve the sunlounger, simple as, they are for people who WANT to lay there at that specific moment, not who MIGHT want to lay there later, ridiculous.
I also agree with the drinks thing, we always return empties to the bar as we're normally getting another round in at the same time haha!! But as you say, its manners, and luckily myself and Brett were brought up with those!
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Yes it is very simple, if they are obviously left to reserve all day and they havent just gone to lunch etc. move em. I do, no way will i sit on a bit of grass when there is a bed there. I've been there when the "offenders" have eventually turned up, (not talking about arillas by the way, other countries) they dont say anything, just slink away lookin guilty.
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Exactly, most of them wouldnt confront you but im always ready if they do haha.
Also if they ask where their towels are say ' oh your towel, yeah its over there in the 'i dont think so somehow' pile' haha classic!!
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Hello every one, i have just found this site and i think its brilliant, now you mention it we have noticed over the years more and more are putting there towells on beds so what the owners (marino, jimmy etc) should do is give you a time card, back in 30mins or whatever and you can borrow there bed till they get back!!
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This thread is of particular interest to my wife and I. :-)
We'll be residing close to Rainbows next week, and would occasionally like to make use of the pool and sun-loungers.
Of course we'll purchase refreshments there in way of recompense.
Is anyone aware of this 'selfish practice' still going on there? ???
If so, could someone please request the proprietors to put a stop to it, and enforce it?
Pretty please. I'll buy you a drink there ;-)
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Just enforce it yourself James if you dont agree with what theyre doing, people are not meant to do it so dont allow them to get away with it.
The proprietors are probably aware of the situation but with their business having to be run its probably difficult for them to keep on top of it.
Some people just take no notice of certain rules for round a poolside so they just need reminding i guess, and if it has to be a fellow holidaymaker to tell them then at least the problem is sorted there and then.
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Removing the towels is a good idea but I don't like confrontation and if an argument happened although I would stick up for myself and refuse to move it would stress me a bit- not what I want on holiday.
It used to be blamed on the Germans but it is the English now. I think the Germans were just out of bed earlier instead of lying in bed late with hangovers.
The problem is if everybody else is reserving beds you just have to join in or you lose out.
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I appreciate your point smiffy.
As alyvin posted "I don't like confrontation and if an argument happened although I would stick up for myself and refuse to move it would stress me a bit- not what I want on holiday."
A few months ago I was attacked and injured by a thug, for no reason on my behalf.
I had several visits to hospital and GP as a result.
I'm still not fully recovered, but need a holiday to help get over it.
I care not having such a thing repeated whilst on holiday.
My wife feels she would be less likely to be assaulted re 'the towel situation'.
I'm trying to keep out of hospital. :-)
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James
if you see A sunbed with a towel on it and its not being used ask the property owners to remove it for you,that way when the towel owners turn up you can always say the owners of the apartments removed the towels as the beds were not being used and that should avoid you getting any flak.Its completely wrong for people to misuse the facilities by reserving beds like this and at the end of the day it is costing Spiro and Jimmy money
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Good idea. We chuntered a fair bit to each other about the towels but with hind sight I guess we should have chuntered to jimmy or spiro.
Karen
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A fair point Harold.
I wondered if smiffy knew the proprietors, and knew they didn't wish to have confrontations themselves.
I appreciate we're not staying there, but as I've stated, we're happy to make payment in kind. e.g. buy some drinks & snacks at the bar. Pay direct if need be.
We'll no doubt check out the situation next week, and hopefully find some sun-loungers and brollies not in use. :-)
Sometimes my wife and I like an occasional alternative to the beach.
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We stayed at the Rainbow in August and we found the same problem with the sunbeds,we are not really ones for the beach but enjoy laying by the pool and having a dip when we get hot.We stayed at the Rainbow last year but didn't have that problem, have booked again for next year just hope it's better.
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I wonder if anyone else staying since August has noticed this problem. It will be interesting to see if it continues next year.
Karen
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While staying in Arillas in September we popped to the Rainbow one day for breakfast,I counted 17 "booked" sunbeds and not one person by the pool.
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Dimitris ( Jimmy ) and Spiros are nice people. One of you regular guests maybe need to get on their website and explain the problem to them. Maybe they will have an exceptable answer or a good solution.
They haven't been in business for 16 years plus by ignoring customer suggestions.
Who's gonna volunteer then ?
Negg
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i suppose my wife and i were lucky at the rainbow this year as we went in early july and didnt have this problem,but we go to tenerife every new year and at between 7am and10.30 the gaurd constantly takes towels off empty beds and piles them up in a corner which i think is fair .i think its a globel problem not just a greek one?
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Try lobbing them in the pool, then sit all smug whilst they try & sus out how to retrieve their towels without getting into the pool!..............not that i have done it before mind!
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I just normally gather all of the towels together and put them all on one bed. then juggle the beds about, always good for a laugh
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Love your name Oikodomophobia :-) :-):-)
Do you suffer from it...or do you cause it? ;-)
Eileen (who does not suffer it but is married to someone who might just cause it!)
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Way back in 1991 we went to Malta (The hotel we stayed at was brand new, they had a brilliant dining room....just one problem....they literately forgot to built a kitchen...Ha! Ha!) Anyway, the poor newly appointed manager was so stressed with all the complaints (er....we have no food to feed you as we don't have a kitchen..) when she saw all the towels on the empty sun beds she chucked the towels in a big pile and hosed them all off.......BRILLIANT!
(The day we left we had no water so we had to get washed in the swimming pool....the flight there was delayed 4 hours and we were in the middle of a massive building site.....)
Wow! Don't you love going on holidays when they are "accommodation on arrival"
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Margaret Meldrew "I DO NOT BELIEEEEVE IT!"
But seriously, I cannot bear the idea of sunbeds, reservations and towels etc at 7am. Just throw the towels in the pool.
Arillas isn't about all that. Go to Benidorm if you want to see it like that (said from experience) but then come and find Arillas
phil
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phil and jen, i agree, just throw all the towels in the pool or sea, then get up early and go watch the krauts, its brilliant to watch them lol
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Menorca and Spain in General are really bad.It is the Brits now that have over taken the Germans. At night the owners used to chain the sunbeds together in piles and you had to go a 9.00 and get one when they unlocked them.One year somebody was so mad they pushed the sunbed piles into the deep end of the pool,then no one could get them and it was a British only accommodation!!!
Annie
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we were in spain recently, staying in a lovely little hotel (all english guests) with a very small sunbathing area round the pool, there were loads of beds but no space! every morning before breakfast one chap would set up his bed, towel and book on it, in the best place free of shadows and then disappear until at least 2pm!!!! no one was brave enough to move it, including me! we did park our beds right upto his though, so we weren't in the shade!
ger x
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Just a thought here - And not wishing to cause distress or embarrassment to people.
But.... Has anyone ever considered slippling a "whooppee Cushion" under a towel left on an un-attended sunbed?
Negg
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Ha ha good idea Eggy, it would certainly get some heads turning...
riggers..
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Negg, I LOVE your sense of humour, hahahaha, I can picture it!
Sharon x
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Brilliant idea Eggy BUT the one problem with that is that - the reserved, unoccupied sunbeds very rarely get a bottom sitting on them - so unfortunately the whoopee cushion would be redundant!!!!!
Would welcome more bright ideas!!!
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What about one of those blow up dolls from Terry's How to get peace and quiet on the beach thread? lol.
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Hi I'm off to Arillas on June 30th and will be staying at Dionysis II, as my husband isn't keen on the beach we spend a lot of time at the pool, I just wondered if this is still a problem this year. Does anyone know? Thanks in advance.
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I don't think you should have too much trouble at that time in the season - it's usually worse in August when the place is full.
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got to say we go to Annas studios every year and their is never a problem.
went in july and it had loads to choose from
sue and ianxx
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Have to agree Sue. Jen has spent many happy hours in July in Anna's pool, even when we weren't staying there. Never a problem with sunbeds, towels or anything.
Me? I swim in the sea so I have the perfect excuse to have several pints of cold Mythos while she swims!
lol
Phil
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Agree Sue. We`ve been to Anna`s, and never seen a problem with sunbeds.
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Hi,
We are staying at Dionnysos 2 in a weeks time and wondered if the reserving sunbed issue had improved this year?!
Thanks
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We will also be there in 2 weeks, (so near but yet so far!!) Should be ready to go out & sample to local cuisine & wine about this time-lovely.
I'd like to know if the towels on beds is still a problem this year.
Karen
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I'm in trouble if there's any sunbed issues there this year, I booked my parents into Dionyssos II from August 4th til the 18th, they're Arillas virgins and they're only going because I recommended it. We've got an extra four days at Anna studios from August 4th til the 8th to surprise them so maybe they can come to Anna's with us if there are problems.
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graham you wont have any problems at annas.
their is always loads of sunbeds.
where are your parents flying from?
im flying from manchester on the 4th aug
it will be nice to meet you and your family
sue&ianxx
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This is why i love going in June. Loads of spare Sunbeds. :)
riggers....
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Anyone been to Dionnysos lately that can update? I am starting to worry about the bed situation as i am such a pool person, i like the beach but definately prefer the pool!
I absolutely hate having to fight for sunbeds - seems so unnecessary!
Would be really grateful if anyone who has been recently can report on the bed situation.
Thanks!
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Certainly no problem a couple of weeks ago but it will get busier ins school holiday times....
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This is going to sound bad and may offend and im sorry if it does
but germans are tight people! theyve got deep pockets and little arms!
they came round kaloudis (splish splash) used the pool alday and toilet facilities with out spending a penny!! not even buyin a drink. its damm right offensive to the owners.
this may not be the case, but what ive herd and seen it seems to be.
and as for towels on sun loungers ..... chuck the towels in the pool !
sod em!
rant over, ash x
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Ash, you are the youngest Victor Meldrew I've ever heard of! lol
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We stayed at the Rainbow last September and it was a nightmare around the pool beds were always being saved and for most of the day there was nobody on them. I am a pool person ,like to explore but like to spend most days reading a book lying by the pool. We are back at the Rainbow in four weeks so hope it has improved!!
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Happy to report that this year there was no problem around the pool. People seemed a lot more laid back this year & didn't start arriving at the pool until 10ish & we managed to get a bed whether we went to the pool in the morning or late afternoon.
Hope that reassures folks.
Karen
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This is going to sound bad and may offend and im sorry if it does
but germans are tight people! theyve got deep pockets and little arms!
sod em!
Hi Ash - or is it young Victor Meldrew?
Don't forget that the forum is viewed, and English read, by many nationalities and that many Germans live around Arillas. If your post is read by some, all they will see could be the edited version above. You will be here for a long spell next year so everyone you meet will be a potential lead to a permanent job.
There's a very good mixture of good tradesmen here who always need help occassionally.
Me ? - You have to go a long way to offend , and towels on beds? -
Don't throw em in the pool if there's a chance the owner may offer you a good job!
( But if you're going home after 2 weeks................? )
You did ask for advice on moving to Corfu so take all the above as "food for thought".
And.... if you want a couple of jokes on how to tell the nationality of the towels on beds then send me a PM. - They do include English towels as well though!
Whoops! - Hope I haven't offended anyone.
Cheers me boy - Stay well.
Negg
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I agree Eggy... Theres a saying "dont bite the hand that feeds you"....
The english can be just as possessive about their sunbeds too!
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one of the things I love about arillas is the different nationalities that arrive. I'm concstantly embarrassed by some Brits with there beer for breakfast and union flag swimming shorts and beach towels.
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haha ian has england swim shorts but he dosent have beer for breakfast. unless we are at manchester airport when going to corfu lol.
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In the airport is allowed, it is the start of your holiday. :D
riggers....
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I wouldn't dream of wearing Union Jack shorts or loudly upsetting others' atmosphere. Jen and me are the quiet ones sat in the corner doing a crossword.
But my Greek breakfast of two pints of Mythos is not negotiable! I might have a feta omelette or saganaki with it but often don't. Know what you mean though Mick - I love to meet people from other countries and try to communicate a bit. En francais habituellment...
Phil
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Sue n Ian
Get back on those sunbeds and leave the forum alone! - not long left now for you 2.
( Sorry to remind you )
I'm at Rainbow from 2:30 Sunday pm. If you feel the need for a change pay a visit.
( I can always zip you back to Annas ) - Only low priority if you have plans for summit
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I refuse to be drawn into the union jack shorts debate.
However---- If I spot Phil , or even Jen , wearing em I will be the first to start a petition for immediate deportation to Agious Georgeos.
( Only Agious Georgeous becasue I'm a fair man )
Cheers
Negg
ps.--- I've seen your crossword puzzles Phil. - They are alll the same answers.
1. Across - Beat the Confederates in the American Civil War
2. Down - Went up the hill with Jill.
3. Down - If you don't dring Pints of Mythos then drink ------.
( This answer is not Black Russians )
What was this topic about ?.
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lmao Eggy
How many ouzos have you had??????? You told us that you only drink it when we are there...
Jen will get back to you with the answers to your clues in due course (like she just said, when she isn't too "inebriated")
Looking forward to solving a few more puzzles with you in in Arillas in 10 days time.
lol
Phil
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Hmmm not enough clues for me. ???
riggers....
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Phil
Do you , like me , re-read your posts the following day and think Hmmmmm ?
( As Riggers said ! )
- Think I'll drink water all day today.
Towels on beds ? - From what I've seen of Arillas , so far this August, there are not many spare sunbeds to put towels on.
Cheers
Negg
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Hmmm yes Eggy. just hoping I won't be embarassed. but I usually am..... But yours was a good laugh!
There aren't any sunbeds where I hang out, so not an issue for me.
Phil
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i sit by the pool with me laptop.
best of both worlds lol.
just come in and done my case.
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Well the Rainbow is a popular place. I often visit it but have not stayed there. Anyway I agree with others, if there are no shoes, sun cream bag etc, just move the towel. You just need to remember not to leave your towel there yourself otherwise we will all be as bad as each other.
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On the last couple of occassions that we've stayed in Arillas we've stayed at Mirage and never really had a problem. We didn't come to Arillas this year as we decided to try something different and we went to Turkey and stayed at the Holiday village. One morning I woke up at 5.30am as I had to visit the loo. We had been finding it increasingly difficult to get a bed near to the pool where we preferred so I decided to reserve a bed. Imagine my surprise when I got out there to find only three beds left unreserved. I hasten to add although I enjoyed my holiday I won't be returning to The Holiday Village this year but will be coming to Arillas for my annual fix.
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Phil
Do you , like me , re-read your posts the following day and think Hmmmmm ?
( As Riggers said ! )
- Think I'll drink water all day today.
LOL
I only drink water
Unfortunately someon keeps putting alchohol in it.))
If i read what i had posted i would not talk to myself for ever!
But its fun at the time.
I have relatives who live in Berlin.
A fine Country and lovely people
Mind you they are ENGLISH