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Title: Would you be happy?
Post by: turkeyfoot on December 05, 2020, 11:03:26 AM
Hi

Ryanair purchases 75 of  Boeing's scandal hit 737's with more to come within 18 months.

Dont think I would be first in the queue to fly in one

Geoff
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: kevin-beverly on December 06, 2020, 02:43:47 PM


Hi

Just reading a report on this aircraft not good

Like Geoff I would not be first or last

Kevin
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: vivian on December 06, 2020, 03:53:58 PM
I certainly wouldnt.
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: harold on December 11, 2020, 09:08:02 AM
nor me
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: vivian on December 12, 2020, 06:41:25 PM
Pete has just said it was 747 that were in scandal NOT 737. dont know whos right or wrong myself.
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: kevin-beverly on December 13, 2020, 09:48:03 AM


HI
What plane is Boeing having problems with?

Two Boeing 737 Max 8s crashed, killing 346 people. Twenty months after it grounded the Boeing 737 Max over a pair of crashes in 2018 and 2019 that killed 346 people, the Federal Aviation Administration has cleared the beleaguered aircraft to return to return to the sky.Dec 3, 2020

The system was triggered by a faulty reading from the “angle of attack” sensor, which measures the angle between the airflow and the wing.

Safety regulators across the world banned the Boeing 737 Max and it remains grounded.

Since then Boeing has been working to make the plane safe, and is now working on plans to calm travellers’ fears about flying on the jet. But a Twitter poll conducted by The Independent suggests that many passengers will be reluctant to fly on the 737 Max – at least until it has flown for some time without incident.
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: Truth on December 13, 2020, 02:08:48 PM
I'd fly on a Biplane to get to Corfu 😂
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: kevin-beverly on December 13, 2020, 02:15:03 PM


Hi

I try hand gliding if enough wind💨

Kev
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: vivian on December 13, 2020, 04:25:38 PM
whoops might have said something that I wasnt meant to yet, so just forget it. ta
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: kevin-beverly on December 13, 2020, 05:06:39 PM


Hi

The 747 jumbo jet ushered in the modern era of air travel, but it won't be around for the industry's recovery — Boeing will cease production in 2022

Boeing will end production the iconic 747 jumbo jet in 2022, marking an end for the plane that made the travel industry what it is today.
The end to the 747 — entered commercial service in 1969 — comes as the coronavirus pandemic slams the airline industry and Boeing, which posted a $2.4 billion loss for the second quarter.
Airlines have been moving away from four-engined jumbos like the 747 in favor of smaller, nimbler, and more efficient twin-engined jets.
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: vivian on December 14, 2020, 06:56:29 PM
well I didnt know that. Im not into planes unless they were stationed at oneoff the RAF camps I was a looooong time ago. lol xx
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: kevin-beverly on January 09, 2021, 10:21:04 PM


Hi

More bad news another Boeing 737 went down just outside Jakarta no lives so far

Why Ryanair buying them most probably going cheep

Kev
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: turkeyfoot on January 10, 2021, 01:06:24 AM
Hi
This time it was not one of the more infamous 737’s
Geoff
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: turkeyfoot on January 28, 2021, 12:59:44 PM
Hi
The UK regulators have said the Boeing  737 Max is safe to fly

Geoff
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: kevin-beverly on January 28, 2021, 01:40:09 PM


Hi

It might be safe flying but no one knows when it’s going to come down ✈️

Kev
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: turkeyfoot on January 28, 2021, 02:18:35 PM


Hi

It might be safe flying but no one knows when it’s going to come down ✈️

Kev

Hi
Reckon you beat Eggy to that lol

Geoff
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: Eggy on January 28, 2021, 05:18:16 PM
Eggy knows diddly , Geoff.
The last time I was in a plane the pilot, in parachute, said to his passengers...
......"We have a problem with the engines, I am going for help"
Negg
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: GaryS on January 29, 2021, 05:45:58 AM
Trouble is, how many times have you booked a flight and told you are on plane type A only to find at checkin you are on plane type B. Back out then and all your money is lost.
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: turkeyfoot on January 06, 2024, 03:55:58 PM


HI
What plane is Boeing having problems with?

Two Boeing 737 Max 8s crashed, killing 346 people. Twenty months after it grounded the Boeing 737 Max over a pair of crashes in 2018 and 2019 that killed 346 people, the Federal Aviation Administration has cleared the beleaguered aircraft to return to return to the sky.Dec 3, 2020

The system was triggered by a faulty reading from the “angle of attack” sensor, which measures the angle between the airflow and the wing.

Safety regulators across the world banned the Boeing 737 Max and it remains grounded.

Since then Boeing has been working to make the plane safe, and is now working on plans to calm travellers’ fears about flying on the jet. But a Twitter poll conducted by The Independent suggests that many passengers will be reluctant to fly on the 737 Max – at least until it has flown for some time without incident.

Hi
Another 737- Max, a 9 this time, involved in air incident today.
The Max 9 recieved its air certification two months ago.

Two Max 8 planes crashed in 2018 and 2019, killing 346 people and leading to a near two-year worldwide grounding of all Max 8 and Max 9 planes.

Alsaka Airlines said that a window blew out shortly after take off in US state of  Oregon. A hole was left in the fuselage.

The plane landed safely with 171 passengers and 6 crew

The plane had completed  145 flights

Still would not be happy in flying in one

Geoff
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: jackson on January 07, 2024, 03:36:41 PM
I would not like to be reading about this while in the departure lounge thats for sure.
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: Truth on January 07, 2024, 06:06:48 PM
Get 10 Whisky into you Jackson..... you'd be fine ! 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: jackson on January 08, 2024, 05:02:10 PM
Good idea truth.
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Post by: turkeyfoot on January 09, 2024, 11:28:50 AM
Hi

https://news.gtp.gr/2024/01/08/europes-boeing-737-max-9-aircraft-are-safe-says-easa-after-alaska-airlines-incident/

The European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) announced that Boeing 737 MAX-9 aircraft operating by airlines in EASA member states can continue to “operate normally” after an exit panel blew out from an Alaska Airlines plane in flight at an altitude of 16,000 feet leading to rapid decompression of the cabin and an emergency landing in Portland, Oregon. No injuries or fatalities were reported.

No airline in an EASA member state currently operates aircraft in the relevant configuration. The  UK is no longer part of the EASA system.
EASA Members https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/light/topics/easa-member-states.


Geoff





Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: turkeyfoot on January 14, 2024, 12:02:28 PM
Hi
The US aviation regulator extended the grounding of the 737 Max 9 indefinitely  on Friday

Geoff
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: turkeyfoot on January 27, 2024, 09:52:51 AM
Hi
737 Max 9 update:

The FAA has approved a process to allow the Boeing 737 Max 9 to fly again. That move clears the way for airlines to begin inspecting the planes so that they can fly again.

Each of the 171 grounded aircraft must undergo the process. That includes inspection of the bolts, fittings and guide tracks for the door plug, the piece of fuselage that flew off an Alaska Airlines plane earlier this month. It also includes tightening fasteners and performing “detailed inspections of … dozens of associated components.”

“This aircraft will not operate until the process is complete and compliance with the original design is confirmed,” the FAA statement said.

Along with announcing the inspection process to get grounded Max 9’s into the air, the FAA told Boeing that “it will not grant any production expansion of the MAX, including the 737-9 MAX,” the agency said in its news release.

“Let me be clear: This won’t be back to business as usual for Boeing,” FAA Administrator Mike Whitaker said.

“We will not agree to any request from Boeing for an expansion in production or approve additional production lines for the 737 MAX until we are satisfied that the quality control issues uncovered during this process are resolved.”

Geoff
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: Eggy on January 27, 2024, 06:46:46 PM
I am very happy 'cause I am not flying so the odds are in my favour!

"Nuts , screws , washers and bolts."

Reminds me of Henry Bolts the Manager of a laundry who had sex with all his staff and then dun a bunk!

Negg
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: turkeyfoot on February 09, 2024, 10:52:02 AM
Hi

Plane manufacturer Boeing is once again facing a new problem with its 737 Max jets after it was revealed that two holes may not have been drilled according to specifications during production.

The new glitch comes after an incident in January when an exit panel blew out from an Alaska Airlines 737 Max-9 plane in flight at an altitude of 16,000 feet leading to rapid decompression of the cabin and an emergency landing in Portland, Oregon. No injuries or fatalities were reported.

Now the company will have to rework some 50 planes after an employee at supplier Spirit AeroSystems found that holes had incorrectly been drilled in at least 22 fuselages out of 47 inspected up to that point.

The issue came to light in a memo sent to Boeing employees over the weekend by President and CEO of Boeing Commercial Airplanes, Stan Deal. “While this potential condition is not an immediate flight safety issue and all 737’s can continue operating safely, we currently believe we will have to perform rework on about 50 undelivered airplanes,”

Geoff



   
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: turkeyfoot on February 16, 2024, 01:52:16 PM
Hi
Airbus cashes in on the woes of Boeing with increased sales and profits.
2094 planes were ordered in 2023 up from 820  in 2022. It expects to deliver about 800 commercial planes this year, up from 65 in 2023.

I the meantime the US authorities have stopped Boeing increasing output of its Max10 while it probes manufacturing processes.

Its reported in  light of Boeing's safety issues it may be tempting to vow never to get on on a 737 Max again. However  experts have said that's hardly feasible, unless you want to take a chance on Russian or Chinese built planes. Even if Airbus could meet all of the demand, which it couldn't, the monopoly it would acquire would make flying prohibitively expensive.

On Monday, the beleaguered company suffered further embarrassment when a Dreamliner 787 operated by KLM had to return to Amsterdam, 3 hrs into a flight
when  it was found 8 of the 9 toilets had stopped working.

Geoff
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: turkeyfoot on February 27, 2024, 10:24:12 AM
Hi
A lack of aeroplanes due to Boeing woes, means there will not be enough seats available this summer.
Rynair expect increases of 10% this summer. Also to blame are higher fuel prices

Geoff
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: turkeyfoot on February 27, 2024, 01:57:46 PM
Hi
Reported by CBS news yesterday:

A panel of experts on Monday criticized Boeing's safety culture, raising the heat on the aircraft manufacturer following a January 5 incident in which a portion of 737 Max 9 plane made by the company blew off mid-flight.
The National Transportation Safety Board said last month that four bolts meant to hold the plug in place on the Alaska Air flight had been missing.

In a new report, the Federal Aviation Administration said a panel of government and aviation industry experts had "found a lack of awareness of safety-related metrics at all levels" of Boeing, adding that "employees had difficulty distinguishing the differences among various measuring methods, their purpose and outcomes."

More broadly, the agency also pointed to a "disconnect" between Boeing's senior management and workers, with employees charged with checking the company's planes expressing concern about potential retaliation if they raised issues.

Boeing's safety "procedures and training are complex and in a constant state of change, creating employee confusion especially among different work sites and employee groups," according to the panel's report to the FAA.

In a memo to employees earlier this month, Boeing said the executive who oversaw production of the 737 Max 9 was leaving the company after nearly 18 years.

Geoff
Title: Re: Would you be happy?
Post by: turkeyfoot on February 29, 2024, 10:58:04 AM
Hi
See report published in the Independent recently.

A popular online travel search engine has reported a noticeable increase in customers using a tool that allows them to refine their flight search to not include Boeing 737 Max aircraft.

Kayak originally rolled out the filtering tool in March 2019, and the increased usage follows an incident on an Alaska Airlines 737 Max 9 on 5 January, in which a window and part of the aircraft’s fuselage blew out shortly after taking off from Portland airport.

A statement from Kayak to The Independent noted that while the tool itself is “not typically the most popular filter used”, the usage of the Boeing Max 737 filter “saw a 15-fold increase” following the Alaska Airlines incident, “indicating aircraft type is, in fact, top of mind for travellers right now”.

“The jump — from low numbers — led to Kayak making the airplane-type filter easier to find.

“The company has also added the ability to filter specifically by the 737 Max 8 and Max 9 models, as the Max 8 is still in use across the world.

The statement added that “whether you’re searching by cabin class, flight quality or aircraft type, Kayak’s filters aim to provide travellers with all the information they need to make smart decisions and travel with confidence”.

Geoff