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Welcome to Arillas => Arillas general information => Topic started by: shropshirenick on September 18, 2018, 12:48:24 AM
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I am visiting Arillas for the first time in July 2019. I must say I am very apprehensive, having heard about the current issues regarding rubbish on the island.
I am interested how regular visitors to Arillas have found the situation this year and if there is any likelihood of any improvement before I visit.
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Its a long way off is July next year..... anything could happen mate...
This year was fine on the seafront nd just off it but it gets worse as you move away. Being totally honest it wasn't ideal
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Truth did you stop mainly in Arillas, or did you get out and about around the island. I would like to hire a car and explore the island, but it doesn't appeal much right now.
Yes, July 2019 is a long way off, but the situation seems to be getting worse, not better. There really doesn't seem to be much progress being made.
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We've been visiting for many years and the rubbish situation isn't new, it crops up every now and again. We went around the island in July and, in parts, the rubbish was piled up but in other places there was none at all. Then there would be a big clear and it would all go..... then it would pile up again in places. In Arillas itself the locals work very hard to ensure that it is controlled and does not affect the look (or smell!) of the village.
As Truth has said, next near is a long way off and a solution may well be found by then - but whatever happens it won't affect your stay in Arillas.
There is a very good thread on the Corfu forum which is regularly updated with news/info about the situation should you wish to follow it - this link takes you to the last page. http://www.corfu-forum.com/forum/general-discussion/the-corfu-rubbish-situation!!!!!/new/#new (http://www.corfu-forum.com/forum/general-discussion/the-corfu-rubbish-situation!!!!!/new/#new)
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Hi
There is an election in early 2019 but even if a different party is elected there will be no change on the rubbish situation
The current contract for rubbish collection does not expire till Sept 2019. So next year will be the same.
This info we got from Theo ar Arillas Cars.
Geoff
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That doesn't sound too promising.
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It doesn't Nick , no !
A few people I spoke to who travelled around this year said it was terrible in places and ok in others , just as Steph says .
I would try not to worry about it too much though mate
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Just got back yesterday and in some places rubbish piled up but not on seafront in Arillas but in my opinion it would not be enough of a problem to put me off going. Corfu is still beautiful. You drive miles and miles and see beautiful scenery and then have about 2seconds of driving past overspilling bins. It does need sorting but needs keeping in perspective.
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Well said Sonia.
Yes, it's a problem , and yes, it needs sorting out but it really isn't the issue for tourists that people are making out.
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Truth did you stop mainly in Arillas, or did you get out and about around the island. I would like to hire a car and explore the island, but it doesn't appeal much right now.
Yes, July 2019 is a long way off, but the situation seems to be getting worse, not better. There really doesn't seem to be much progress being made.
As Sonia said, the vast majority of the island is still as beautiful as it ever was, and I don't really see the point of worrying about July 2019 when the situation could be completely resolved by then.
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Hi
it is a issue in Sidari when it is piled up alongside the front wall of the hotel you are staying at the smell
The Galini is piled up and on to the road cars lorrys run over the bags cats dogs ripping bags open
First time in corfu its enough to put you off
along the front yes tidy what about the hoteliers past the Rainbow it starts building up
imagine you pull up out side your hotel or apartments and see all the rubbish piled up what is your first thoughts
the bin men collected the rubbish the fisr tuesday we was out there but by friday it looked like this
(https://i.imgur.com/Ec1f1Dx.jpg)
And affter two weeks well you can imagine
But i know Arillas and we have already booked for next year
kevin
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Yes it would not be nice if staying next to it.
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Feel sorry for Gallini as its bound to put people off staying there.
It stunk everytime I walked/jogged past there ☹
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Hi
Bev was gagging 🤮
Kev
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Don't let all you read put a damper on it before you go
ARILLAS is a wonderful place as is the Island.
Yes problems arrise and rubbish can pile up, there is no space left to put it in land fill.
In May there were large piles of rubbish in places in town and along back roads
When we returned in July the rubbish situation had improved.
ARILLAS is well looked after by the locals and they do all they can to ensure you get looked after this includes dealing with the rubbish problem in the village.
On both occasions it failed to spoil our holiday and I'm sure it will not be a problem when we return next week.
YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE ARILLAS. Before you know it you will have 2020 Booked and be wondering what all the rubbish worry was about
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John we are only speaking the truth photos don’t lie down front tidy as I have said before out towards the galini Tria and independent apartment it is not very nice I don’t think you would like it out side your apartment
We have seen vans cars from the front dumping rubbish at the Galinis bins and not bothered about other hoteliers
Yes Arillas is a great place or we would not be returning
I am only telling how it is reporting. That’s what the forum is all about what is going on
You said once this site is for Arillas well this is
Members would like to know what’s going you can not hide the matter other members have seen the mess
There is No recycling they have them self’s to blame
I know the landfill site is full but the government should have been looking in to the matter years ago and got site prepared
Kevin
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just a thought,last year did they not ship rubbish across to the mainland ,so why are they not doing it this year.
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John we are only speaking the truth photos don’t lie down front tidy as I have said before out towards the galini Tria and independent apartment it is not very nice I don’t think you would like it out side your apartment
Members would like to know what’s going you can not hide the matter other members have seen the mess
The thing is Kevin, the two sites you have highlighted, I admit, were at times not good but were certainly not representative of the area as a whole.
Also, firstly, I don't think the Galini is open at the moment and the pile of rubbish near the Tria is well away from any buildings so they're not 'outside' anybodys appartments. Secondly, of the thousands of visitors to Arillas during a season, only a very small percentage would actually walk past those two sites.
I believe we were there the same time as you, and for us, although it wasn't pleasant, it wasn't a problem.
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Shropshirenick I am sure that as a first time visitor you must be feeling worried by this. This year we stayed at the Bardis Hotel by the beach and I can honestly say the area around there was ok and we had a wonderful holiday.
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I have been to Corfu a couple of times before, but the last time was 30 years ago. We have booked an apartment at the Hotel Marina. It all looks fantastic and Arillas sounds like my kind of place.
When I booked, I was aware of the rubbish issues, but not of how bad the situation is.
Its one of those things, the more you read the more you worry about it. I have paid a non refundable deposit on the apartment, otherwise I think I would cancel my plans. My wife is not fazed one bit though and she is really looking forward to visiting Arillas. Whereas at the moment I would happily lose my deposit and go else where. I guess I will probably listen to the voice of reason, otherwise known as my wife.
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The area around the Marina was fine when we were there. Please don't lose your deposit.
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I didn't mean to trivialise the problem and it does need sorting.
Shropshire nick - the Marina is in a beautiful position and no problems with rubbish around there. In my opinion you could change to a different resort and have a different problem.
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Thanks for all the replies, I think we will probably stick with it. We will have to book the flights imminently, so that will be the point of no return.
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Hi
The marina no problem very clean
I only mentioned two sites because people know them. The Galini had people staying on the top floor
Bin sites over flowing
The one near the Brouklis
The rainbow
The bakery
The mirage
NOT ONLY TWO SITES
The one at the Tria Philip when empty took the bins away and taped up the area Philip told us you could smell the bins. Some days you could smell the one out side the Galini from the Tria depends on the wind
This problem may not be a problem to some people but it is not nice for others we didn’t mind but the landscape looking down the road and see bags piled up
If you are staying on the front no problem but the holiday makes a bit out it is not nice
This thread is just going around and around and not getting anywhere some people don’t mind and some do
Instead of disagreeing with each other start a petition and send it to the Greek government it will be a start
I am not putting a damper on Arillas or Corfu I love the place just reporting the situation most probably as we speak the bins are being emptied one can only hope
Kevin
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A fair and balanced post Kev 🙂
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Hi
The marina no problem very clean
I only mentioned two sites because people know them. The Galini had people staying on the top floor
Bin sites over flowing
The one near the Brouklis
The rainbow
The bakery
The mirage
NOT ONLY TWO SITES
The one at the Tria Philip when empty took the bins away and taped up the area Philip told us you could smell the bins. Some days you could smell the one out side the Galini from the Tria depends on the wind
This problem may not be a problem to some people but it is not nice for others we didn’t mind but the landscape looking down the road and see bags piled up
If you are staying on the front no problem but the holiday makes a bit out it is not nice
This thread is just going around and around and not getting anywhere some people don’t mind and some do
Instead of disagreeing with each other start a petition and send it to the Greek government it will be a start
I am not putting a damper on Arillas or Corfu I love the place just reporting the situation most probably as we speak the bins are being emptied one can only hope
Kevin
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I dont think its much to do with the central Greek goverment. Its the local polictics and Mayor. As my previous post said:
''There is an election in early 2019, but even if a different party is elected there will be no change on the rubbish situation.
The current contract for rubbish collection does not expire till Sept 2019. So next year will be the same.
This info we got from Theo at Arillas Cars.''
Who knows?
Geoff
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It was disgusting in August! Every time you went for a walk you had to go past piles of stinking rubbish in that heat. Not going back in the near future.
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Hi thinwhiteduke
I am sorry this spoiled your holiday it’s not the people of Arillas or Corfu it’s the Athens government did not have a plan once the land fill site was full. They can ship the rubbish to the mainland but the government do not want to spend they rather lose holiday makers and lose money in taxes the Greek government are twenty years behind sorry to say
I am working on a on line petition to send to The Corfu parliament I know some people will say it will do no good but you got try you never know
Us members go out from once to three time a year so Arillas has got something so keep follow this thread and see what happens
Kevin
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there was an online petition over the rubbish i remember signing it,but cannot remember the link
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found it
https://www.change.org/p/mr-tsipras-corfu-in-crisis-corfuincrisis
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John we are only speaking the truth photos don’t lie down front tidy as I have said before out towards the galini Tria and independent apartment it is not very nice I don’t think you would like it out side your apartment
We have seen vans cars from the front dumping rubbish at the Galinis bins and not bothered about other hoteliers
Yes Arillas is a great place or we would not be returning
I am only telling how it is reporting. That’s what the forum is all about what is going on
You said once this site is for Arillas well this is
Members would like to know what’s going you can not hide the matter other members have seen the mess
There is No recycling they have them self’s to blame
I know the landfill site is full but the government should have been looking in to the matter years ago and got site prepared
Kevin
Kevin don't know why you think my post was aimed at you.
I only replied to the original post
That post was made before you put any reply as it was the original, so Shropshirenick had got the info from another source.
I Just made reference to our previous two visits this year stating the situation at the time.
I know it won't spoil our return next week, just as it failed to spoil your visit.
As you said only informing the forum what I saw at the time.
Not having a go at anyone
John
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My biggest problem with the rubbish problem is that it makes me very sad and very frustrated. Sad because a beautiful island is being spoilt, sad because the hard working Arillas people deserve better, and frustrated that the politicians and bureaucrats cannot agree a solution. There has to be a solution as people just can't live healthily and happily with this problem. Lastly, I am also frustrated because I don't know what I can do to help.
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What can be done to help
We take our rubbish with us and it is not left strewn across the beach or in the fields.
It is then disposed of into the rubbish bags where we stay but ultimately ends up being piled up with other rubbish bags.
Unfortunately we are able to do nothing about the situation. The appartment owner then does his part by getting rubbish moved, but because of the situation it sometimes fails to reach its final destination.....
We are are helpless, it all falls on the authorities to resolve the matter.
I have no doubt it will be resolved eventually.
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The one thing we can all do, is to keep going to Arillas. Many on here will be doing just that, and have already booked for 2019.
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Hi john
No John I am not having a go at you or anyone.
I just get annoyed About the Greek government not thinking ahead and putting plans in action
Stick together the stronger we are
Kevin
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Thank you Harold saves me setting one up
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Hi thinwhiteduke
I am sorry this spoiled your holiday it’s not the people of Arillas or Corfu it’s the Athens government did not have a plan once the land fill site was full. They can ship the rubbish to the mainland but the government do not want to spend they rather lose holiday makers and lose money in taxes the Greek government are twenty years behind sorry to say
I am working on a on line petition to send to The Corfu parliament I know some people will say it will do no good but you got try you never know
Us members go out from once to three time a year so Arillas has got something so keep follow this thread and see what happens
Kevin
Still had a great time and love Arillas and I know that they did their best, but can't be doing with that unfortunately.
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Hi john
No John I am not having a go at you or anyone.
I just get annoyed About the Greek government not thinking ahead and putting plans in action
Stick together the stronger we are
Kevin
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Thank you Harold saves me setting one up
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About time you updated your profile. Might have recognised you first time we saw you lol
Geoff
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New update on the rubbish situation on Hercules & friends Facebook page.
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Liking the new photo Kev and Bev.
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Hi john
No John I am not having a go at you or anyone.
I just get annoyed About the Greek government not thinking ahead and putting plans in action
Stick together the stronger we are
Kevin
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Thank you Harold saves me setting one up
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About time you updated your profile. Might have recognised you first time we saw you lol
Geoff
At least they have a photo Geoff. A bit easier to spot them from that than a small mustard pot. Lol.
I kept looking out for you as we were there same time as you last week but didn't spot you but then as you know I need to go to Specsavers.
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Hi john
No John I am not having a go at you or anyone.
I just get annoyed About the Greek government not thinking ahead and putting plans in action
Stick together the stronger we are
Kevin
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Thank you Harold saves me setting one up
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About time you updated your profile. Might have recognised you first time we saw you lol
Geoff
At least they have a photo Geoff. A bit easier to spot them from that than a small mustard pot. Lol.
I kept looking out for you as we were there same time as you last week but didn't spot you but then as you know I need to go to Specsavers.
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Maybe next year
Geoff
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With much trepidation I have cancelled my holiday to Arillas.
I know I would just be anxious for the next 10 months, such a shame Arillas looks fantastic. It is definitely the best decision for me.
I really hope the problem gets sorted quickly for the locals, because no one should have to put up with this situation.
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What a great shame. It really wouldn’t have spoilt it but now you will never know unfortunately. That said I can well imagine why you would want to avoid holidaying next to decaying rubbish as the scaremongers would have us believe
Next year marks my 23rd visit to Arillas. I am ridiculously excited as each year brings new experiences but ultimately the same amazing spiritual experience that keep us returning to this special village year on year. My eldest who was 1 on his first visit and is now 23 can’t wait to show his girlfriend this special village.
This year we had one stinky bin to pass on the way to a sublime lunch, overlooking the calm sea, sipping ice cold wine and marvelling at our blissful day.
Like I said what a great shame that you won’t get to enjoy this.
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we were in Arillas in August for 3 weeks and we did see bins full and overflowing and by the Tria there was mattresses strewn all over as well as rubbish but we did also see rubbish collection lorries quite a few times emptying the bins. We also smelt them lol. It did not ruin my holiday and if we had to pass the full bins I just held my nose and carried on and then sometimes the next day they were empty.
I have also seen this on other Greek islands and it would not put me off from going back to Arillas at all. Already booked for next year for out 7th visit.
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I totally agree with Jo as Sue and I have been going to Arillas for 25 years and nothing would stop us visiting. However you can understand how potential visitors could be put off by tales of overflowing rubbish bins and awful smells. Even first time visitors may think twice about returning. The selfish side of me may say let people stay away so that the resort is not overcrowded but this does not help the local economy which is so vital to Arillas. I would like to be able to say that I have the answer to the problem of the rubbish situation but the answer lies with the local and the national authorities. Ron.
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Yes I can understand paying all that money to go on holiday and you get a smelly old bin outside
And not a nice site
Rubbish will not stop us returning all booked for next year
Kevin
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the situation is not as bad as it sounds on here,i saw 3 overflowing bins between the airport and Arillas. Today Sally and i walked around the resort and did not see any problems at all
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Thanks Harold hopefully they got there act together and sorted out the problem fingers crossed
Kevin
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Hi
I think many people, due to loyalty to something or somewhere, see things through rose tinted glasses.
It is difficult to accept criticism of something or somewhere we are happy and content with.
We make excuses to defend something or somewhere we are familiar and comfortable with. Be it one of our favourite holiday idyll or restaurant etc.
‘’It was a one off’’. ‘’It’s an exception’’. ‘’It’s not really a problem’’.
The reality is, that seen through a fresh pair of eyes, the actuality is seen. An unpleasant situation and experience.
I have a pair of such glasses. I rarely recommend places for that reason. Be it home or abroad. So I hope I do not get any vitriolic replies.
We walk, what we call the back road, from the Mathraki to the beach. Every day there was an over flowing bin. Its contents spread across the road by cats, dogs or foxes (yes they do have them in Corfu). The fragrance was far from desirable. The visual impact was negative.
To watch the locals on their mopeds carrying multiple sacks of rubbish and just throwing them on the pile without stopping, is not a particularly good image of anywhere.
The taxi from the airport passed many such overflowing rubbish sites.
Hopefully the 2019 elections will see a new Mayor elected who will grasp the mettle of the situation and its impact on visitors.
Having spoken to Nico at the Matharaki about the situation, I said I would vote for him as Mayor in the elections to resolve the issue.
Geoff
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I still maintain, for the majority of tourists in Arillas, the rubbish is not an issue.
I don't think I am looking thru rose-tinted glasses, I think I am being realistic and objective.
Firstly. in and around Arillas, the rubbish collection points are well away from apartments and restaurants, and for the few people who do have to walk past them it's no more than a couple of seconds of unpleasantness
Secondly, this is an exceptional situation, that hopefully will be resolved in the not too distant future but in the meantime is being managed admirably well and to the best of their ability, by the locals
Thirdly, in Arillas it's not the 'HEAPS' or 'MOUNTAINS' of rubbish that other resorts are having to contend with. If you visit other popular resorts , not only in Greece, but around the world, for example in Africa, the Caribbean , or the Far East, you will see far worse, that is accepted as the norm.
The rubbish is Arillas is NOT an issue.
Please can we keep it in perspective.
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Took a stroll around the loop from Rainbow via Tria, back lane, along the front and back to Rainbow
all tidy and clean
The picture Kev posted by the Tria is no more all the rubbish has gone all that remains is the red and white tape
Tidy in all other places also.
Cleanest I have seen it this year
TOP JOB DONE.
Will build back until the authorities
resolve the situation
HAVING A FANTASTIC TIME
IN THIS FABULOUS PLACE
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HI GUYS
A BIG thank you for your report John great news. You know some greeks take one step forward and two back BUT get there in the end well done ARILLAS
kevin
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Just in case some of you haven't seen this..................
http://enimerosi.com/details_en.php?id=27979&fbclid=IwAR00jUQIAyOyzXhndnUC5UTdWy_UioOp7pMhtHnF29-U6fO0-yKyXNMhTpA
Cheers
Negg
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Great news. Thanks for sharing Eggy.
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Thanks Mr eggy good news
Kev
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Hi all
I’m new to the forum! Me and my family are due to visit Corfu and Arillas for the first time in July. Arillas looks lovely and we booked it because it looks perfect for me and my family.
However I’ve started to get a little concerned about the rubbish situation on the island itself to the point where it’s worrying me about visiting.
Conflicting reports on TripAdvisor etc don’t help to ease the mind unfortunately.
I’ve contacted TUI who I’ve booked with regarding my concerns and they have been quite dismissive and deny that they’ve even heard of the issue.
It will cost me a further £200 to change my holiday to another island.
Am I over worrying about the issue? Is the problem on going in arillas? I can see the locals are doing their upmost to sort it out with the recycling center but I’m really in two minds on what to do especially as I have two children to think about.
Sorry my first post is a negative one I just want my holiday to be as enjoyable as possible for me and my family.
Many Thanks
Carl
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Welcome aboard.
All I can say is This place is special,
The rubbish situation around Arillas has not been a problem for us
We are regular visitors and have not been put off by any rubbish problems, last summer we visited three times and did not come across any problems relating to the rubbish.
The locals take a pride in their village and keep the area as clean as they can.
Forget about changing your holiday and stay with your booking.
You will love Arillas
Be Warned Arillas will keep you forever.
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You will love Arillas it’s so friendly and the food is great you will be back guarantee
Arillas is like a magnet it pulls you back
Kevin
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Thanks for the reply’s guys it does make me feel better about visiting.
Everything you’ve said about Arillas is the reason why we booked! I’ve been looking forward to our holiday since we booked it almost 12 months ago!
TUI have now replied saying they are looking into the rubbish issue for me- at least that’s something after dismissing it at first.
Thanks again for the replies guys!
Carl
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HI CarlMac
you are staying at the kaloudis village apartments arillas if going with TUI you will love it at the spish splash pool bar you got Billy and his wife surviving meals and drinks and the on site shop is , Rula who will help in anyway they can to make your holiday enjoyable
kev
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Hi Kev
Yes we’re staying at Kaloudis Village. It looks lovely!
I’m in a positive mindset today and I’m just going to start looking forward to my holiday to Arillas and unless TUI recommend otherwise we will be coming in July!
I can’t wait!
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We first went to Kaloudis in 2000. We've had to miss a few years due to family commitments but it's still as pristine as the first year we went and the family are still as lovely. The rooms are typical Greek but very well cared for and the grounds are lovely with never any litter about.
The pool is good size and plenty of beds always available.
Last air con was still 5Euro per night per unit and WiFi was free in the rooms but a small charge at the bar.
Hop year love it as much as we always have
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Hi
I have followed this thread with interest. I would like to respond, hoping it does not lead to many vitriolic responses. The problem cannot be denied.
I feel my efforts in contributing to keep Arillas tidy have been proven in the past. Notably on the North Beach. This cannot be denied as I received a lot of support via the Forum. Even a number of years on the standard has been maintained. I have worked with the Keep Arillas Tidy Committee.
I detest untidiness.
I love Arillas. It meets all expectations of a traditional friendly Greek resort. Great hospitality. Great food. The Greeks are gregarious hosts whatever resort you frequent, whatever Greek island you are on. It’s seems to be, thankfully, in their nature.
In regards to the rubbish surrounding the village Arillas there has been a problem in recent past years. It cannot be denied if you look at previous threads on this forum.
I am not a Trip Adviser follower, but it’s obvious the concern has been reported on this site as well.
September 2018 you could see bags of rubbish seemingly moving along the roads of their own accord, which were in fact mopeds, presumably driven by locals, early in in the day, dumping their rubbish haphazardly on the outskirts of the village. It’s amazing how many sacks of rubbish you can get onto a moped.
Indeed it seemed outside all villlages the problem was prevalent.
Whether or not the local recycling programme will alleviate the situation I don’t know. There has been a problem with the council tip on the island, exacerbated by the refuse collectors etc. in the past few years. Time will tell if this year will be different. I sincerely hope so.
We are already booked for 2019 and waiting to book for 2020 so we are not unduly perturbed .
The Kaloudis Village is spotless. The staff can be seen cleaning the approaching road daily as do all the hotels and bars in the actual village.
As I said on this thread previously you can take a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. Time will tell if the local initiative of recycling will be successful. It still needs a desire and motivation to be successful.
Visit, enjoy your holiday, and make your own decisions.
Geoff
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There is nothing , in Geoff's post , that I cannot disagree with. - These are poor photos of the Arillas re-cycle centre, for your interest. (Not good at photos!!)
(http://arillas.atwebpages.com/zp-core/i.php?a=arillas&i=w13003.JPG&s=595&cw=0&ch=0&q=85&wmk=%21&check=f9aa0433efc65fb319b564ec198d8aaf998c9509)
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(http://arillas.atwebpages.com/zp-core/i.php?a=arillas&i=w33003.JPG&s=595&cw=0&ch=0&q=85&wmk=%21&check=f9aa0433efc65fb319b564ec198d8aaf998c9509)
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(http://arillas.atwebpages.com/zp-core/i.php?a=new-album&i=w23003.JPG&s=595&cw=0&ch=0&q=85&wmk=%21&check=f9aa0433efc65fb319b564ec198d8aaf998c9509)
I am told you will NOT see any large bins, along the Sea front, this Summer. Many here are giving full commitment, as workers and users to make Arillas one of the best and tidiest places to be for your holiday break. But..... it is only as good as who takes the time to use and appreciate these facilities!!
My advice to all you guys who "wanna do yer bit" is speak with your appt owners and ask the question. "How should I split my rubbish, to make is easier for your cleaners , or... do I dispose of it myself??"- Villa owners , in Arillas, are looking at the different bins needed for the convenience of thier guests.
I am confident you guys will notice this , and many other changes , this Summer.
Cheers
Negg
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and....... just to add that Wegg was in Ag Stehanos , yesterday , and all looked very good. I was in Ag, George , the day before and the sea front was clean n tidy.
Today , on my way from Kavaddades to Sidari , all bins were very respectable with most empty.
Sidari seem to be experimating with centralising all thier rubbish , so the road , from Sidari to Roda , has a lot of rubbish on the left hand side, as you leave Sidari.
But . although an eyesore at the moment, let's give it time and see. If it keeps all else clear it could be worth it.
Cheers
Negg
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Hi All
Has the rubbish been cleared from the road by the football ground?
Cheers
Mike
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I have nothing further to add other than to also say you will fall in love with Arillas. We first went when our kids were 11 and 8 and they are now 28 and 25 and live the place as much as we do and still holiday in Arillas. We will be there again for our 10th visit and we ompared to some forum members are newbies.
Welcome to the forum Carl