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Title: Olive tree
Post by: M n M on February 21, 2008, 02:13:07 PM
Help, Iv'e just purchased an olive tree from Aldi but part of the instructions that come with it state that it needs dunging, I know what that means but it says that it needs it with 'dung 20/10/10 with microelement' now that I don't understand.
Any brainbox gardeners out there? please, ta very much, Mick.
PS. Not many left.
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Erja on February 21, 2008, 03:22:16 PM
dunging - Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :

  Dung \Dung\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Dunged; p. pr. & vb. n.
     Dunging.]
     1. To manure with dung. --Dryden.
        [1913 Webster]
 
     2. (Calico Print.) To immerse or steep, as calico, in a bath
        of hot water containing cow dung; -- done to remove the
        superfluous mordant.
        [1913 Webster]
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Eggy on February 21, 2008, 03:29:45 PM
M & M
If it doesn't involve digging a hole and then Squating over it at Midnight, when the neighbours aren't around, maybe it means mixing a mixture of compost with Vermiculite and sharp sand. Try searching Vermiculite on the website. I'm not a gardener but I thnk this is used to aerate the soil.
Someone may shoot me down in flames here.
Negg
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Mango on February 21, 2008, 03:54:38 PM
Hi MnM

We have an olive tree in our garden, planted in your commoner garden muck!!.

We have had no problems with it and it grows every year, so I wouldn't worry too much. 

Apologies to all you professional gardeners out there if I should be treating it with more respect!!!

Amanda
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: vivian on February 22, 2008, 02:04:00 PM
Our's is in a pot with nothing special just normal soil from the garden.
Inside at the moment as it is only young but is looking healthy with
many tiny buds on it, wil let you know if they devolop into olives or not.
I wouldn't bother about the dunging.
By the way does any body know how old or large an olive tree should
be before it is planted out and can stand the horrable weather we get here. Viv
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Mango on February 22, 2008, 02:49:03 PM
Hi viv
Not sure how old they should be before being planted out, but ours is only young and small and is in a planter, we have left it out in the garden all winter and it is still healthy, so I guess they are hardy plants anyway.  Plus they stand the frost in Corfu in winter.

Amanda
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: sharonF on February 22, 2008, 04:06:40 PM
Quote from: Eggy on February 21, 2008, 03:29:45 PM
M & M
If it doesn't involve digging a hole and then Squating over it at Midnight, when the neighbours aren't around,

Negg what a very fertile imagination you have, LOL, x
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: martin-w on February 22, 2008, 08:04:53 PM
Hi All!
I have an Olive Tree which I purchased from Aldi about three years ago along with a Brown Turkish Fig. I planted both in large patio planters (2ft square, 18ins high) in  March of the year of purchase in general compost, after first soaking the root ball in water, with some crocks in the bottom for drainage. I dressed the top with small pebbles to cut down the weed growth and retain water.
The olive is now 3-4 ft tall and survives the winter here in Wales well. The fig is 4-5 ft tall and last year I picked 14 figs! I am going to plant it in the garden this year as it is rapidly outgrowing the planter. At the moment there are a large number of green buds waiting to burst at the onset of some warmer weather. The olive retains most of its leaves overwinter, but the fig turns some bright shades of reds and yellows and the leaves drop after the first frosts. I have not treated them in any special way and they are both healthy!
Hope that this is of some help,
All the best,
Martin.
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: M n M on February 22, 2008, 10:38:23 PM
Thank you one and all,
I shall just treat it like all my other plants then, a bit hit and miss but it seems to work.
It's just that I love olives and really really want to grow my own and eat them all up myself, cos i'm that way, ttfn. Mick
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Maggie on February 23, 2008, 05:03:15 PM
Mick, I've also got an olive tree, and if it can grow here, then you shouldn't have a problem. (there hasn't been any dung near mine!)I have a few doubts about being able to eat the olives tho.
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Mango on February 23, 2008, 06:10:25 PM
Hi Maggie

We tried the olives from ours last year and they were far too bitter to eat.

So we just leave them to drop off now and don't bother eating them.

Amanda
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Eileen on February 23, 2008, 07:30:20 PM

Hi Amanda,

I think you will find that you need to soak them in brine first before they are edible.  Something to do with soaking the olives in lots of salt and water...maybe a someone with a better knowledge will come along and tell us how it's done.

Eileenxxx (yum I'm having my first wine of the evening with some good old olive paste on a dippy cracker thingy!)
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Sandy x on February 23, 2008, 07:36:30 PM
Sounds good to me Eileen....could you send one in my direction please? I love that olive paste....
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Eileen on February 23, 2008, 07:54:58 PM

I kept some for you Sandy....

(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8676/olivepastezf9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
By arillas (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/arillas)

and to wash it down.....

(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4841/retsinajh9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
By arillas (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/arillas)

ENJOY!!!
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: M n M on February 23, 2008, 08:09:36 PM
Maggie, I'm sure Helen will let us know what to do with them, we will be over end September for 3 weeks.
See you around if you are there, just leave some olives and ouzo for me, ttfn, Mick.
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Sandy x on February 23, 2008, 08:20:03 PM
Yummy....thanks Eileen. I'm in Birmingham with Michelle and the bar's just opening....yammas!
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: blondegirl on February 23, 2008, 08:53:47 PM
That Retsina is looking pretty good with the olives too.... just need some nice weather, sounds of the sea and the atmopshere of Arillas.
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: wayne on March 01, 2008, 02:23:07 AM
i have an olive tree and a bay leaf tree i just put them in the garden,soil and a bit of compost and they both been growing happily for 3 years now.my bay tree is almost 6ft high now,looks like plenty of spag bol and pilou rice this year
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Lindypops on March 01, 2008, 06:26:03 PM
Nice picture Eileen, now I`m peckish again!
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: holliepos on March 08, 2008, 03:22:09 PM
I was in the local garden centre recently and noticed that the olive trees they were selling stated that the olives weren't edible. It didn't say why, but just be careful in case they are poisonous!
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Oikodomophobia on March 11, 2008, 10:47:54 PM
Hi Martin

If you are going to plant the Brown Fig in your Garden enclose it in a large plastic pot or a barrel with holes cut in the bottom.

Brown fig roots can cause a lot of damage to drainage, they will actually choke underground drainage to get to the liquid inside during dry spells.

Subsidence is a specialty of mine...
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: martin-w on March 12, 2008, 03:47:44 AM
Hi Oikodomophobia!
Thanks for the warning. The tree is doing extremely well in the 2X2X2ft. planter and I have seen warnings about rampant growth on gardening programs where they suggest chucking in bricks and paving slabs to limit root growth. I have selected a spot next to the boundary wall and near the foundations of an old greenhouse so that should cramp it's style for a while!
Yammas,
Martin. 
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: vivian on April 29, 2008, 10:34:35 AM
Hi, Just wondering how everybodys olive tree's are doing now the winter's over?. Viv
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: TerryW on April 29, 2008, 11:39:05 AM
Hi Viv,

I think the forum must create some form of telepathy , because we took our  olive tree out of the conservatory on Sunday,and put it back in the garden. As we were doing it Helen and I were talking about other members olive trees and wondering how they had survived the winter. Ours had lost a few leaves but looked reasonably OK. I am interested to see if the trees that were left outside for the winter have survived OK.

BTW ( Telepathy, from the Greek τελε, tele meaning "distant" and πάθεια, patheia meaning "to be affected by")

I was looking at the tree this morning and thought that it looked a bit lonely, so I think another olive tree will have to be bought to keep it company. We can then buy additional lemons from Perdita (San Stef) to put on it. Maybe a little Olive Grove could evolve and that could be fun, eh Eileen? I love my little Greek corner.

The garden centres  seem to have increased their stocks of  olive trees over the last few years, so they must be becoming more popular.  Some of the very large ones are about £1000. I wonder who buys those?
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: martin-w on April 29, 2008, 01:16:07 PM
Hi All!
My olive tree seems to be doing fine. It's in a large 'patio pot' and has been out in the garden in a fairly sheltered position all through the winter. Mine is a 'hardy' Mediterranean variety, it's still relatively young and hasn't fruited yet.
Martin.
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Mango on April 29, 2008, 03:48:13 PM
Hi Terry

Our olive tree is doing fine.  We never took it in this year, it has survived all through the winter, they are kind of hardy plants.

Amanda
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: vivian on April 29, 2008, 04:07:06 PM
Terry, How wierd we put ours out Sunday and thinking of buying another. Have read on one site that they are ok down to -5 but can be risky lower then that. Viv
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Marymary on April 29, 2008, 07:09:49 PM
Hi All
Great posts regarding olive trees I've been humminng and haring on weather to buy an olive tree but didn't think it would do well in County Durham, but they do appear to be hardy trees so now I'm going to buy one, I'd love the idea of eating my own olives, but even if it doesn't get to that stage , I'd have a little reminder of Arillas in my garden.

Happy growing
Mary
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: Maggie on April 29, 2008, 09:50:59 PM
My olive tree has been outside, unprotected all winter. It's not in a sheltered position, but it's fine. it still looks very healthy, so please don't think that they need pampering.
If olive trees survive in scotlands winters, then I'm sure they'll do fine anywhere.
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: M n M on April 29, 2008, 11:40:04 PM
We bought ours at the end of last year so it's been inside the unheated conservatory, but regardless of what Mary says it is going outside tomorrow, if she thumps me Maggie it's your fault. Lol. It's got a lot of young green shoots. Mick.
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: dwg69 on April 30, 2008, 08:36:59 AM
Quote from: M n M on February 21, 2008, 02:13:07 PM
Help, Iv'e just purchased an olive tree from Aldi but part of the instructions that come with it state that it needs dunging, I know what that means but it says that it needs it with 'dung 20/10/10 with microelement' now that I don't understand.
Any brainbox gardeners out there? please, ta very much, Mick.
PS. Not many left.

Just found your message

the 20/10/10 in the instructions are the numbers on a bag of fertilizer :-

All fertilizers have three numbers on the label which indicate the fertilizer analysis, or "percentage by weight" of nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium, in that order.
       
Therefore, a 50 pound bag of fertilizer labeled 20-10-5 would contain 20% nitrogen (10 pounds), 10% available phosphates (5 pounds), and 5% soluble potash (2.5 pounds).
See the calculations below:

50 pound bag of 20-10-5 fertilizer:
  20% nitrogen (.20 x 50 lbs = 10 lbs)
  10% available phosphates (.10 x 50 lbs = 5 lbs)
    5% water soluble potash (.05 x 50 lbs = 2.5 lbs)

Furthermore, this product would be considered a "complete" fertilizer, since all three nutrients are present

I hope this helps

Derek
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: TerryW on April 30, 2008, 11:40:18 AM
This forum is a source of loads of information. I'm glad Mick asked the question about the   "dunging" and I'm glad that Derek could give the detailed answer.

Thanks Mick and Derek, very useful information.
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: dwg69 on April 30, 2008, 12:16:03 PM
Quote from: TerryW on April 30, 2008, 11:40:18 AM
This forum is a source of loads of information. I'm glad Mick asked the question about the   "dunging" and I'm glad that Derek could give the detailed answer.

Thanks Mick and Derek, very useful information.

It's also called the N.P.K.
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: M n M on April 30, 2008, 10:13:55 PM
Derek, thanks now I know, but, I think the N & P stand for the first 2 chemicals but does the kicking K stand for the chemical sign for potassium?:-). Please remember I left my brain back at work when I had to retire 2 and a half years ago and now try to get away with one syllable words if I can.
Cheers, Mick.
PS. Retirement is everything that it is made out to be, I have so much more time now to annoy Mary instead of 5 minutes a day.;-)
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: justphil on April 30, 2008, 11:29:29 PM
Hi Mick

N & P do stand for the chemicals (elements nitrogen and phosphorus) and K is indeed the symbol for potassium (Kalium in Greek.)

Knew that degree in Chemistry would come in useful one day lol. It hasn't done much else for me....

Phil
Title: Re: Olive tree
Post by: M n M on April 30, 2008, 11:38:25 PM
Phil, ta very much, they only tried to teach us english, maths and religion at school, but without much luck. I just knew reading them Sherlock Holmes books would come in handy one day :-), by the way it has been said that I am a cheeky so n so, or something stronger. Mick.