Would you be happy?

Started by turkeyfoot, December 05, 2020, 11:03:26 AM

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turkeyfoot

Quote from: kevin-beverly on January 28, 2021, 01:40:09 PM


Hi

It might be safe flying but no one knows when it's going to come down ✈️

Kev

Hi
Reckon you beat Eggy to that lol

Geoff
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than  to speak up and remove all doubt.

Eggy

Eggy knows diddly , Geoff.
The last time I was in a plane the pilot, in parachute, said to his passengers...
......"We have a problem with the engines, I am going for help"
Negg

GaryS

Trouble is, how many times have you booked a flight and told you are on plane type A only to find at checkin you are on plane type B. Back out then and all your money is lost.

turkeyfoot

Quote from: kevin-beverly on December 13, 2020, 09:48:03 AM


HI
What plane is Boeing having problems with?

Two Boeing 737 Max 8s crashed, killing 346 people. Twenty months after it grounded the Boeing 737 Max over a pair of crashes in 2018 and 2019 that killed 346 people, the Federal Aviation Administration has cleared the beleaguered aircraft to return to return to the sky.Dec 3, 2020

The system was triggered by a faulty reading from the "angle of attack" sensor, which measures the angle between the airflow and the wing.

Safety regulators across the world banned the Boeing 737 Max and it remains grounded.

Since then Boeing has been working to make the plane safe, and is now working on plans to calm travellers' fears about flying on the jet. But a Twitter poll conducted by The Independent suggests that many passengers will be reluctant to fly on the 737 Max – at least until it has flown for some time without incident.

Hi
Another 737- Max, a 9 this time, involved in air incident today.
The Max 9 recieved its air certification two months ago.

Two Max 8 planes crashed in 2018 and 2019, killing 346 people and leading to a near two-year worldwide grounding of all Max 8 and Max 9 planes.

Alsaka Airlines said that a window blew out shortly after take off in US state of  Oregon. A hole was left in the fuselage.

The plane landed safely with 171 passengers and 6 crew

The plane had completed  145 flights

Still would not be happy in flying in one

Geoff
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than  to speak up and remove all doubt.

jackson

I would not like to be reading about this while in the departure lounge thats for sure.

Truth

Get 10 Whisky into you Jackson..... you'd be fine ! 🤣🤣
Wolverhampton Wanderers, pride of The Midlands......

jackson


turkeyfoot

Hi

https://news.gtp.gr/2024/01/08/europes-boeing-737-max-9-aircraft-are-safe-says-easa-after-alaska-airlines-incident/

The European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) announced that Boeing 737 MAX-9 aircraft operating by airlines in EASA member states can continue to "operate normally" after an exit panel blew out from an Alaska Airlines plane in flight at an altitude of 16,000 feet leading to rapid decompression of the cabin and an emergency landing in Portland, Oregon. No injuries or fatalities were reported.

No airline in an EASA member state currently operates aircraft in the relevant configuration. The  UK is no longer part of the EASA system.
EASA Members https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/light/topics/easa-member-states.


Geoff





It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than  to speak up and remove all doubt.

turkeyfoot

Hi
The US aviation regulator extended the grounding of the 737 Max 9 indefinitely  on Friday

Geoff
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than  to speak up and remove all doubt.

turkeyfoot

Hi
737 Max 9 update:

The FAA has approved a process to allow the Boeing 737 Max 9 to fly again. That move clears the way for airlines to begin inspecting the planes so that they can fly again.

Each of the 171 grounded aircraft must undergo the process. That includes inspection of the bolts, fittings and guide tracks for the door plug, the piece of fuselage that flew off an Alaska Airlines plane earlier this month. It also includes tightening fasteners and performing "detailed inspections of ... dozens of associated components."

"This aircraft will not operate until the process is complete and compliance with the original design is confirmed," the FAA statement said.

Along with announcing the inspection process to get grounded Max 9's into the air, the FAA told Boeing that "it will not grant any production expansion of the MAX, including the 737-9 MAX," the agency said in its news release.

"Let me be clear: This won't be back to business as usual for Boeing," FAA Administrator Mike Whitaker said.

"We will not agree to any request from Boeing for an expansion in production or approve additional production lines for the 737 MAX until we are satisfied that the quality control issues uncovered during this process are resolved."

Geoff
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than  to speak up and remove all doubt.

Eggy

I am very happy 'cause I am not flying so the odds are in my favour!

"Nuts , screws , washers and bolts."

Reminds me of Henry Bolts the Manager of a laundry who had sex with all his staff and then dun a bunk!

Negg

turkeyfoot

Hi

Plane manufacturer Boeing is once again facing a new problem with its 737 Max jets after it was revealed that two holes may not have been drilled according to specifications during production.

The new glitch comes after an incident in January when an exit panel blew out from an Alaska Airlines 737 Max-9 plane in flight at an altitude of 16,000 feet leading to rapid decompression of the cabin and an emergency landing in Portland, Oregon. No injuries or fatalities were reported.

Now the company will have to rework some 50 planes after an employee at supplier Spirit AeroSystems found that holes had incorrectly been drilled in at least 22 fuselages out of 47 inspected up to that point.

The issue came to light in a memo sent to Boeing employees over the weekend by President and CEO of Boeing Commercial Airplanes, Stan Deal. "While this potential condition is not an immediate flight safety issue and all 737's can continue operating safely, we currently believe we will have to perform rework on about 50 undelivered airplanes,"

Geoff



   
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than  to speak up and remove all doubt.

turkeyfoot

Hi
Airbus cashes in on the woes of Boeing with increased sales and profits.
2094 planes were ordered in 2023 up from 820  in 2022. It expects to deliver about 800 commercial planes this year, up from 65 in 2023.

I the meantime the US authorities have stopped Boeing increasing output of its Max10 while it probes manufacturing processes.

Its reported in  light of Boeing's safety issues it may be tempting to vow never to get on on a 737 Max again. However  experts have said that's hardly feasible, unless you want to take a chance on Russian or Chinese built planes. Even if Airbus could meet all of the demand, which it couldn't, the monopoly it would acquire would make flying prohibitively expensive.

On Monday, the beleaguered company suffered further embarrassment when a Dreamliner 787 operated by KLM had to return to Amsterdam, 3 hrs into a flight
when  it was found 8 of the 9 toilets had stopped working.

Geoff
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than  to speak up and remove all doubt.

turkeyfoot

Hi
A lack of aeroplanes due to Boeing woes, means there will not be enough seats available this summer.
Rynair expect increases of 10% this summer. Also to blame are higher fuel prices

Geoff
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than  to speak up and remove all doubt.

turkeyfoot

Hi
Reported by CBS news yesterday:

A panel of experts on Monday criticized Boeing's safety culture, raising the heat on the aircraft manufacturer following a January 5 incident in which a portion of 737 Max 9 plane made by the company blew off mid-flight.
The National Transportation Safety Board said last month that four bolts meant to hold the plug in place on the Alaska Air flight had been missing.

In a new report, the Federal Aviation Administration said a panel of government and aviation industry experts had "found a lack of awareness of safety-related metrics at all levels" of Boeing, adding that "employees had difficulty distinguishing the differences among various measuring methods, their purpose and outcomes."

More broadly, the agency also pointed to a "disconnect" between Boeing's senior management and workers, with employees charged with checking the company's planes expressing concern about potential retaliation if they raised issues.

Boeing's safety "procedures and training are complex and in a constant state of change, creating employee confusion especially among different work sites and employee groups," according to the panel's report to the FAA.

In a memo to employees earlier this month, Boeing said the executive who oversaw production of the 737 Max 9 was leaving the company after nearly 18 years.

Geoff
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than  to speak up and remove all doubt.